#199 The Christian and the Scoffer's Heart: A Warning to Christians and Meme Culture

We are preparing to do an episode on popular YouTuber, Journalist and Podcaster,  ⁨Candace Owens and the reception she receives form the populace.  We think we need to lay some ground work. Are Christians aware of how discipled we've been in a culture of scoffers?  Are Christians aware that we live in a society that has trained us to never be concerned with what is true and to only be concerned with what our "team" thinks? What does the bible have to say about this type of behavior?

In this episode, we discuss the heart of a scoffer through a biblical lens and we hopefully lay some foundation for why we should care about the things that Candace Owens and many others talk about, whether or not you agree with their take on the matter. 

Transcript

Understand this is about...eternity

 The very word secrecy is repugnant

Far beyond all you can ever, according to the power that's working within.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Black and blurred. That's Daren.

Ah. Let's see.

I'm Brandon. You know what? Something feels significantly different about this episode that we're recording right now. And it's that I don't feel miserable. I've actually I'm I'm I had deep regret last week especially, Joe texted me and and we'll get into some of the things he talked about, but.

Yeah.

The biggest thing of him texting me was I was legitimately disappointed that. I felt like I was dying during that whole episode, and I genuinely don't remember it.

Let's discuss it.

I'm I'm like, I mean, even get being able to chop it up with Chad at the end and I had to leave like I still left the thing, you know, running and you two were on here talking and I had to get up and leave because I'm you know. Being flipped inside out. And that and that, that was my evening for the rest of the evening. Oh. And it was a stupid, spicy. Well, it was a spicy Chick-fil-A sandwich. Now, that's never happened to me before. Typically the Chick-fil-A Spicy Chick-fil-A sandwich just messes with my stomach, and it makes it achy, but that's it. And it's been like that ever since high school, when I worked at Chick-fil-A. So I'm. I'm always willing to flirt with it.

This is a public vote.

But because we were gonna record and I didn't want my stomach hurting while we were recording. I asked Tulani, my wife, to make whatever it is she was starting to make with these plants that she's planting and whatever. And so she made that concoction, and I've been drinking it the whole episode, and I was just getting progressively worse. And towards I want to say I want to say maybe 10 to 15 minutes in. I felt like if I made the wrong type of hiccup or belch. Yeah. So that whole episode.

I'm sick of you. You had done that message. She would've done that mess. I don't know what would have came up my mouth.

Man, I was, I'm.

I'm like, and so Joe was texting me like, hey, man, you know, I really appreciated that episode. And I'm looking at. It like man. I really wanted to engage because I went back and listened to it, especially in editing some of the video stuff. But just to listen to. It to remember. I really wanted to engage way more with a lot of the things that he was saying. I mean, I genuinely believe we could have gone for two hours, I think, and I think he would have.

Been willing to do that? Yeah. He's probably on longer podcast the way he was set up, but like, he was ready to put the long.

He was ready for the long haul, man.

Haul in a whole bag of.

And I just. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Maybe we can get them back. It'd be really good if we could find ourselves in Texas again. I still, I don't think I've shown the people what happened to you last. Time we went to Texas.

What happened to it?

You ended up addicted to Texan clothing for significant significant amount of time. I mean I need to find. Yeah, yeah. I need to find the video for you guys. You guys have to see what happened to him when.

It's almost that time, man. Then it gets sold on popping the back up.

We went to Texas. Yeah, it's significant. It's significant. Thousands of dollars later, thousands of dollars there, there.

Of mallards.

When we went, what's the name of the place? The 1st place we went to? Who? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. It was like that disco he texts in place right where they offered me a beer. When I came in, I was like, oh, they offer they offering beverages. Let's see what type of boots they got. And here you go.

No.

Yeah.

$10,000 snakeskin. But so we. So we ended up going to where? What's it called?

I cannot. I cannot remember what new place is called. Well, there's a bigger.

Place something melanders or Highlanders or. I forget, I forget.

I can't remember.

But it was like a, you know, a more reasonable, still expensive, but more way more reasonable Texas.

When they have more options, they had a lower end than they had the high end.

Right. And that's when you're like asking questions and you're like, hey, how do you wear your belt buckle? You know, do I tuck this in my boots? So what type of boot? Oh, I like this shirt. I'll get this shirt. And then I came to your crib, like, two months later and you had nothing but. To Cova boxes. Stacked up to the ceiling your room.

Alright, good. How are you?

You look at me.

All right, all right. This is episode 199. Now we are going to celebrate. We are, we are going to have a celebration and do some reflection on the podcast and on you guys and your encouragements throughout the years. But we're not going to do that on episode 200. We're going to dedicate episode 200 to a survey. And analysis of. The world versus Candace Owens. I think it's necessary and it won't be for the sake of you know, understanding Candice Owens better, though I think that's gonna be a result of it. It's going to be for the sake of the way that we interact with things that we are presented in today's society, which is very important.

Yes.

As Christians. The way that we interact with information. And the way that we even understand that information before we even interact with it is very important and that is why. We are dedicating episode 200 to that now. This episode we're dedicating to creating a foundation for episode 200.

MHM.

Because I think that the reason we are all at odds with any given thing. I mean, think about any given news story that can happen. You have people who are vehemently opposed immediately. And meanwhile I'm thinking. Who's that person? You know, I I'm I'm. I'm always left thinking like am I not, am I not getting a memo or something like that that I missed the memo on why we should be vehemently Pro Israel state.

Yeah.

Or the memo that we should be vehemently pro Palestine. Right. Where is that memo, comma? From now, when people say the Bible, that's where they I'm a miss, right? Because I'm like, well, no, I don't think that's the case. But I was not saying that for either. Of. Them or either any any other thing. You know what? What memos are we missing here? I you. Know I just. I just had a conversation with Oscar today.

All righty.

Yeah. And he was just talking through, like, how to engage, man. I mean, this dude is in the the flagship Lego store. In. Left Ville. USA.

Yeah.

And so he's just asking a question. Hey, how do I engage? Well, as a Christian, you know how to be faithful, talking about those things. And he was saying that somebody had responded to the death of a person. With celebration like this, this man had died and this person was celebrating his death and I didn't know who he was. And Oscar was like. I don't even know who this guy is, but I I still wanna engage with that type of response cause I think that that's just this, you know, it's not good. And so looking into it, it was somebody I think with focus on the family.

Yes.

I I've heard that phrase before. I'm not well versed in focus on the family, though I don't know the people behind it, and I also don't have strong opinions, therefore about. But I'm so behind, I always feel that way. Is like not only. I'm not not not well versed and focused on the family, I don't know the people who are running it and I don't have strong opinions about those people. But you know in the comments section of this thing that I found, you got people waging war on each other regarding this person who died. I'm thinking, what in the world is going on?

Oh.

How did we get?

Yeah. Wow.

Here. So we're going to dive into that. For the second-half of this episode. Here but before. To just make my heart feel a little better, I would love to do some follow up to that chat episode. Just to be able to talk about some things that I did not talk about because I was concerned about making making sure this board and my microphone stayed clean.

I'd never would do this podcast again. If you threw up into the microphone and on the board.

Couple of announcements. One for the people who have been reaching out and encouraging. Thank you very much. Sending messages. Either you can still comment guys, you can comment on Spotify on Apple. I need to do a better job. Maybe you can check the apple Wednesday and you have Apple stuff, right?

I mean, yeah, I guess so, yeah.

I I it's hard trying to get into the apple stuff because I don't have apple stuff. I don't know how to really look at that.

Yeah.

But just people leaving those comments are encouraging. Continue to rate the podcast. Thank you very much for that. And even what Chad said for the people who suggested he come on our podcast. Thank you so much. We you know, we're grateful that he was willing to come on the podcast and we'd love to chop it up with him again and hopefully it'll be in person. UM, Rachel Parsons has been an incredible encouragement. I've seen her. I've commenting on social media. She sent a very encouraging message.

Yeah.

And I just wanted to shout her out and say thank you very much and and thank you for your support of the podcast.

Yes.

Any other announcements still, we're still, I'm still in the thick of it, of support raising for the church plant. I've cracked 60% funds raised, so I've I've been told that on the 2nd on the second-half of things, that's where it's it's hard, you get impatient and things like that. But fortunately because of the Lord and his provision of rest. And slowness after the last 11 years of very busy. Begrudging. The ministry, not all of it. Some of it is extremely joyful, but the institution of religion, religious Christianity, has left me very jaded and parts of that are going to remain jaded to it that I continue to wage war against it and then parts of it. The Lord has to. Continue to heal my heart. On and I'm grateful for the slowness of fundraising, even though. It's. It can be tumultuous and you're raising funds and you gotta rely on the Lord and stuff like that. You and Holly did crowdfunding right for starting up the business.

Yeah. Yeah.

But yeah, if you know support raising and relying on Lord, it's it. It exercises that dependence muscle that we ought to be living and dedicating our entire lives to. Depending on the Lord, everything that you have comes from him. So I'm grateful for it. The link. If you want to support or learn. I'm sorry if you want to learn about. The church plant it will be on this podcast episode and every other podcast episode. Feel free to look into that and you have my absolute blessing to reach out to me and say, hey, I'd love to talk more about this. Ask me questions. I love to share about it. And I guess last announcement, stay tuned for the next week's or next episode on and Candace Owens. And I think I'll call it the Candace Owens effect. I don't know. We'll have to come up. With a good name for it.

All right.

Any thoughts? Any thought? What are your? What's your follow up thoughts from the episode with Chad?

There is. I mean it's it's like a. I I mean, I got a feeling of validation. Because everything you share kind of filled in the gaps. Of. I guess. You know everything we. Learned about civil rights was taught to us in school.

Hmm.

In a history book. And as an adult, you think about some of that? Stuff and it's. Like what? Why?

MHM.

Like, why were these people certain people like thrusted toward, like, at us? And then there's some people that we really didn't really delve. Into their lives. Yeah, like. We didn't, really. Dive into the life of Frederick Douglass.

Hmm.

Like he was a part of the, you know, the core guys that you talk about, but. We dove into the life of.

You're talking about in general, you're not talking about civil.

In general, I'm no I'm to my Black History Month civil.

Rights movement anymore? Yeah. Yeah, I got you. I got you. Yeah. Yeah, just the names. The surface.

Rights all of. All of it. There were certain characters. That they thrust it on us. Completely omitting. Like you talk about Harriet Tubman, they don't. They omit white people. If you think about it, if a bunch of black people were enslaved. Then they would need some white people on their side as abolitionists to help completely omit that from every story. Mm-hmm. And then and then you Fast forward the civil rights movement. It just didn't. Everyone I've talked to as an adult at this point, we should have met somebody.

MHM.

Who knew somebody? Going through it, yeah. Who, who? Who? You mean, like, not just because we've all. We've all felt prejudice from someone.

Yeah.

We can no longer say white people don't know what it's like to do a racism. Yes, they do. Yeah, they do. They do now. They certainly do now. Hmm. They know more than we do. In some cases, right? But there there's there was a lot of holes that needed to be filled.

We as in. This current generation alive that has not experienced the stuff that they champion, yeah.

It's. Generational. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah, there were there. It's like the these holes that were empty regarding Martin Luther King, his death.

M.

His who he was as a man, his character.

Mm-hmm.

Here.

We were told to celebrate him, but not really why we just was told that he. Was. You know. Pivotal in the civil rights.

Movement. We weren't given an opportunity. To truly analyze what was before US11, I think one of the biggest examples for that for me is.

Right, yeah.

The existence of an MLK and Malcolm X photo in black homes. Yeah, 2 opposing ideologies, even on the surface. Let's say that Martin Luther King truly believed what he professed to believe. He is diametrically opposed to MLK and what MLK seeks out to do. Why are those ideologies being conflated or conjoined at the hip in some type of way only through skin? Like we weren't given an opportunity to really analyze that meanwhile. Some of those opinions had already been formed, so we enter into adulthood and I realize, oh, you're you're not allowed to champion Booker T Washington. Mm-hmm. Whoa, why is that? Because he his name surely popped up on the shirts and the stickers and the stuff like.

That and we were kids, right? And not Ben Carson anymore either.

Right Ben Carson's name. We talked about that a lot. His face and name were plastered everywhere in our schools in grade school. Mm-hmm. But then you find out. Ohh, that's not allowed anymore. I think being able to see that. Curating. Of reality in real time. Is what gives you that validation. I think what you're talking about if hearing what Chad is, was is saying.

He also mentioned something about, you know, there's like. This. Political jousting when it comes to civil. Rights. Movement like, I don't know. They were Democrats and they were Republicans. He mentioned that there's there's, you know, there's not there. There's arguments about this party flip. Sure you can argue about that, but it has nothing to do with that.

Mm-hmm.

At some points. Marxism. Infiltrated the Democrat party. And a different point in time. It infiltrated the Republican Party, yeah. And Marxism has the same ideology, no matter where it goes. And everyone involved in those parties in those moments where merely pawns puppets. For a bigger goal, right? And the goal was to create civil unrest and they did it, they did it.

And they continue to do it, yeah. They continue doing. So. These were some encouraging follow-ups. I had, you know, I told you that I talked to. Rocks.

Hmm.

A good friend of ours who lives in Texas now and actually said that her roommate was from where Chad lives early, but we we she came to visit us, you know, she's about to get married. She she and she's about to get married and. We were talking just about the history of all these things. And, you know, she was pushing back and the pushback was not with. With truth claims. It was with. I can't think right now dissonance. It was just cognitive dissonance and and not in a petty way. Still genuinely questioning, but it's like the response is rooted more so in, but then that would mean this and then that would mean that, you know it it it, it's like some layers are being peeled back and you know just sharing with. Her in our living room. And I told her I said, hey, just stay tuned. And when Chad comes on, just pay attention. And I think that will really provide some things for you. But sorry, trying to set this up. I think that, UM, that'll really provide some answers for you in real time. So she sent me a message and it was an encouraging message, she said, you know? All that stuff made sense, and it's not that it made sense, it's that in checking these things, Chad is well informed. Yeah. And her response was that, you know, she has a lot to chew on.

Yeah.

She has a lot to chew on there. There is an. Equally weighted and opposite response, I also I also received. And I and I understood 100% what they meant. And this is what they said. I am afraid this person is in agreement with us as a believer stands with us, they said. I'm afraid to listen to the episode. Because I know that I'll have to stand on the truth of that information in real time, and I'm afraid of just being ridiculed as a racist.

Hmm.

Like I just don't want to know. Let me let me enjoy some type of blissful ignorance regarding this stuff because. I would like to. Not have to deal with this. Really. And I absolutely understand it, I I absolutely understand that. Now one of my biggest did you have? Anything else to say?

I mean, no, I mean. Some of the main points are just. The the world is evil. I think if we start with that premise and really it's it's a lot easier to accept than anything. The world is evil. Humans are evil. And so if you start with that premise. These things aren't that hard to swallow. You know, if you don't make people your. Idols. You don't trust so deeply into people. UM. And you don't build your world, you base off people. It's a lot easier to swallow. OK, yeah. People gonna people sounds about right. It would be shocking to me if it were all true that Martin Luther King was.

Yeah.

Just a martyr.

Hmm.

And you know. Had no flaws, and yet he was he's championed still today. You know what I mean? Like that would be odd. And and knowing our our government. And knowing propaganda and knowing conspiracy. That he would still be championed today with no ulterior motive rather than to champion him for helping to put an X.

And.

To the Jim Crow S, yeah.

Please. Yeah, and and and the fact of the matter is I think one of the one of the I think low hanging fruit rebuttals is well, you can't just discredit everything that he did. And it's like I think that's actually a categorical error because I'm not even discrediting any line items. Yeah, I'm discrediting the entire premise. What I I I want to discredit the entire premise. I mean, that's like saying. I don't even know what it's like saying I don't feel like I'm with analogy right now, but I hope people get. My point like we're. Not we're not doing that. And to that point I wanna highlight one of the more more direct reasons I was frustrated about my lack of presence in that episode, at least in my mind, I felt like I was lacking. Presence because I was so focused on how terrible I felt. I really wanted to engage with the rebuttals that our boy Joe. Has given us. Either in our conversations behind the scenes, but then also in episodes I did episodes with them, we did an OK episode. And I wanted to engage with them. Almost sort of like line items, but then also dismissing the line item response. Because at the end of the day, I want to keep the main thing, the main thing Chad's argument has a maybe not very clear, but it definitely has a thesis statement.

Right.

And so if if there's gonna be rebuttal, I would like for the rebuttal to address the thesis statement and that thesis statement has to do with. Responding to the narrative that we're giving today, uh, let me. I'm gonna. I'm gonna highlight why I'm bringing that up. So I'm going to highlight some of his rebuttals now before. I highlight his rebuttals. He. Was he was encouraged by the. Episode. Joe was more specifically, he was encouraged by Chad's faith. I think that people who have. Some clips of Chad and have seen other, you know, like whatever things on social media, they don't get a a get to peer into his love for Jesus as much as he, you know, spoke about it on the podcast. Yes. And I think that that's a telltale that a lot of people who might have either even semi opinions about Chad don't engage his content.

Yeah.

Yeah, because he's open about his fate.

Mm-hmm.

He's he's, he's open, he's open about his faith. That's not, you know, not to say that that's not about everybody who doesn't engage with content. I'm just saying that in the stuff that he talks about and also in his kind of like, chop it up sessions with his, you know, other crew and stuff like that, they they talk about faith openly and explicitly. But this was 1 rebuttal. Joe said. Police brutality was only because of the lack of permits Joe asks, or I mean police brutality was because of the lack of permits or the lack of permits was used as an excuse for police police brutality. And so because Chad is saying that, hey, these Marxists would have these protests and they would specifically not pull a permit. So that the police could engage them legally. But the story could be police brutality, right? And so Joe is saying, you telling me that the police brutality was because of a lack of permits or are the police truly as evil as we say they are? And they are brutal.

Mm-hmm.

And they want to justify their brutality because there was. A lack of permits. That was run one without them. Another one I'm going to kind of go line item, so if you have something to say after it, keep it in mind and save it after it's only three of them. The Civil war narrative. He said Jefferson Davis did not agree that the ***** was equal to the white man. The Confederacy's ideological and theological framework drove their resolve to die for the states right to conserve slavery. The Civil War was about slavery, and history tells us that a slow end to slavery would not have happened without. Christians dying for it, and so that was Joe's rebuttal in response to Chad saying. Or highlighting the fact that there were more points to the Civil war and a crux of that point was freedom and sovereignty.

Mm-hmm.

And Joe was saying no, it was about slavery. Lastly. Joe said. I would argue that we are not a better society if we are allowed to discriminate, and that goes against the scriptural mandate to not show partiality. So we have rebuttal about the permits with police. We have rebuttal about the Civil War narrative and we have rebuttal about discrimination and free peoples. Not assuming you have something. But I don't want to skip past it. Did you have? Anything to say about any of that?

I mean. I mean the only thing that I could say. Well, especially specifically the first one. About the permits. Is that? Number one is not likely connected to what we believe happens today and it's not a new tactic or this is not the first time we've heard of that tactic. Mm-hmm. For people to bait. The authorities to do something for personal gain in some way, you know to or for the media to make something look. Uh. A certain way of the way favorably. You know for the way they want it to look essentially. More of a. Close minded answer would be. Chad has done the research. And I think these are questions that a historian would ask. They would ask questions like man, I wonder if. They actually. Did apply for the permits and they turned him down. So that they could beat them. You know what I mean? And I, you know, I think that a historian would look into something like that. Instead, he came on the other side saying and, and I. And I think the assumption is that Chad actually has a dog in the fight.

Yeah.

MHM.

You know, I mean, like he's as Christians, we got a dog in the fight. It's like, no, we kind of want to. Kind of want to feel vindicated, and that's the white. Yeah. All right. In the fight in the civil, in the civil, the Jim Crow fight. You know, when it comes to.

You mean in? Political fight. Right.

You know, I think, Chad, like he said at the beginning, all he did was look at what's true and follow the story. And so I I think that. Specifically, with the permits saying that tracks, I mean.

Mm-hmm.

You read into Rosa Parks that tracks. She was an activist. These. People were activists. And what do we see activists do today? That's not a new tactic. Activists sitting in the middle of a train. Track. What's gonna happen? The police are gonna show up, and then they pull out the cameras.

Mm-hmm.

And now all the police dragged a woman off a train track. That's the video that we see just that clip. And so that's not a new tag. That's not something that's so far fetched. I think the desire is for there to be racism. Afoot and to see racism. Everything. And I just. I don't think it's a healthy way to view anything.

Yeah. That's the thought. That right there, I think that.

Yeah.

That when we get lost in the line item rebuttals, we forget why Chad O Jacksons need to exist. Right. We forget why black and blurred podcasts need to Center for biblical unity. All of these things have to exist, not because somebody was walking around in the mall and they heard a line item lie. And they're like, oh, I'm going to attack that line item. And then we're going to dedicate the rest of our days. The other line item life. And then you're just giving rebuttals where it's like our dog in the fight is making sure people understand the permits and how that actually came, you know, to be in protests. No, I actually don't care about that. I'm happy that Chad brought it up.

Actually, to express a broader point.

It's the broader point, and that was my thought. I I'm and going back to what I said earlier that we need to remember that Chad's thoughts and research and therefore truth claims are rebuttals.

Yeah.

To the properly.

Yeah.

Promulgated narrative now what is that narrative, whether explicit or implicit, what you walk away with when it comes down to the information disseminated regarding civil rights going back before that, the information disseminated regarding the civil war and going forward? Like a Tarantino movie, the information disseminated in real time, it is that white people are inherently, intrinsically, exclusively racist and evil. And the reason our society is the way it is. Right. That is the narrative. And so people are looking to set holes in that narrative or not set. Put holes on to expose the holes in that narrative.

Right.

Weather that is implicit or explicit, we have far more black Americans who have hatred and racist ideologies due to an incomplete or distorted form of history that's been taught and force fed to us as part of our ethnic heritage. And that narrative, that's part of our ethnic heritage is apparently a part of our fundamental ontology.

Right.

That is who we are. That is what that is, what it means to. Be as a black person. And so Chad's sentiments aren't mere assertions. They're meant to introduce us to the complexity of real time argumentation in history, just as we are experiencing now and to in the in the present day. Like, imagine this because we're we're experiencing the change of the way things are actually happening in front of our eyes in in real time. If a man who calls himself a woman writes a book. 50 years from now about the transgender movement, that book will undoubtedly leave out crucial aspects about the proliferation of such a perverted ideology in our society. And it will inevitably leave more and more people angered towards Christians that book. I can guarantee you. That is not something that's worth being debated. However, there will be counter arguments. That come as a result of that. That counter argument could possibly be that some weren't trying to impose their views, but they wanted to protect children. Regards to transgender stuff. That some were high, some were merely wanting to highlight the fact that, hey, they're teens who are transitioning and they're depressed. Or they're unliving themselves.

Hmm.

And we're not talking about that. But those people will be postured in this book as the evil ones, the enemies.

Well.

Now, does that mean that when this man writes his book about mean spirited, evil hatred people that there weren't any mean spirited evil? No, of course that's not what it.

Means right?

Of course they are mean spirited, evil, hatred people. People, but rather than them being defined by their mean spirits and hateful hearts, they will be defined by a title, the man of the book gives them, and he'll give any and everybody that title. And that's what we're seeing in our narratives today. That's why you need documentarians like Chad Jackson. So I'm not really interested in debating about the the the. Sheesh, I just read it. The permits and stuff like that.

Yeah. Whether or not there was racism, yeah.

Let's yeah, let's say. Now. I'm not saying it doesn't matter. I I think all information matters. But I'm saying, let's say that it comes out that everything that shed said, I mean every word that came out his mouth about the permits. Let's say that that's false. Does it change and does it affect the thesis? That the history as it has been presented as a biased and slighted history. Is not so, and it's been distorted. That thesis does it change if every word he said about the permits is false? My answer is. No.

Right.

My answer is no, and until someone wants to engage that the thesis statement. Specifically, the crux of that thesis statement being the person of MLK. Yeah, his profession and the way that he walked and lived that profession out is significant.

Yeah.

It's absolutely significant. But I did. Want to highlight some things? Anything. Just cut me off if you have. If another thing comes to mind. I found something interesting. About one of the rebuttals the so the Civil War narrative rebuttal. I'm gonna read it again. He says that Joe says that Jefferson Davis did not agree that the ***** was equal to the white man. The Confederacy's ideological and theological framework drove their resolve to die for the states right to conserve slavery. The Civil War was about slavery, and history tells us that a slow end to slavery would not have happened without Christians. Dying for it now my my, my thought and I and I don't mean to seem flippant. I'm not trying to say, hey, I'm going to ignore what you said, Joe. I think that's some it. It is something worth engaging. I'm just trying to stay on the main thing here. In one's eye, you are correct. I would agree. I've read through some arguments for slavery from professing Christians during that time. But here's what's interesting. Their arguments sound like blind people arguing for property rights.

Uh.

Now the narrative is that it's because they were so despicable, and because they hate black people so much and they did not want that stupid white man taking their ability to beat their black people. And that's what they were. Willing to go to war for. Now, I'm not saying that they weren't people who were like that, but we also know it was some black people who wanted to fight for that ability too, and and and should have bought a Hyundai now. Here's what's even more interesting. When you read those arguments from these slave owners arguing for their freedom. And for the government to keep their hands off their property. What's that? Starting to sound like?

That's the argument that Abalar says now uses all the time.

You think now, would it be theologically correct for me to go to a a baby killing factory? And would I be correct in saying that you're all child murderers? I would be. Theologically. But there's also. A reality to what's happening with a lot of these people, you're blind and you need your eyes open to what you're doing. And you can't even realize what you're doing. And you think that you're merely arguing and voting for freedom? And bodily autonomy, that's what. You think you're arguing for? And yet we have Christians who would support what Joe is saying here and also support bodily autonomy. But it's the leftist that agree with the theological and ideological premises of the Confederacy. In a way, in a way, because of their blindness. Yeah, because of their blindness. And at the end of the day, these Confederate soldiers needed someone. To convince them that that property they're talking about is a person.

Mm-hmm.

No, there are. Still, holes in that thing. I'm not going to die. I'm not diving in it. I just want to keep the main thing, the main thing. Can we be consistent? That's all I want because also what Joe highlighted in that point was that. He he said something that I don't think we ever hear. Darren, when we're talking about the civil War, I'm going to read the end of it. The Civil War was about slavery. And history tells us that a slow end to slavery would not have happened. Without Christians dying for it. All right. Do we talk about that? I thought that was stuff we talked about on this podcast that that, that the church waged war against the institution of slavery. And if we zoom in on that word church in that time for that generation. Those letters look white. You know, folks, those what? Those letters looking white, ain't they? That's interesting. So I get it. That's a convenient rebuttal, but I think there's some inconsistency. When we lift up out of refuting Chad's arguments, if we extrapolate that argument with consistency, then you know Joe, you might have to. Become the third host. A black and blur. Because people gonna start hating you. There needs to be consistency. I agree with him.

Uh-huh.

I'm arguing for the consistency. That's what I'm arguing for.

Yeah.

The discrimination bit. What? What Chad is highlighting, and I've had this conversation before, I've had this conversation before. What Chad is highlighting regarding discrimination is. You know. What we do with words today is we put so much negative connotation in words. That we don't even really realize that that's happening.

All right.

We don't. We don't realize that's actually happening. And so to discriminate is not inherently evil. Now the basis of that discrimination can be evil. Right. And the Christian? Yeah, of course we shall know partiality, but we're talking about the state. Is what we're talking about and. I want to say I want to ask this question is our fight as American Christians? To be scripturally consistent. Now, if that's the case. And and I would say yes, we need to be scripturally consistent kind of sort of a rhetorical question is why is there so much, I mean vehement hostility between the professing Christian who believes in leftist ideologies and the professing Christian who has conservative. Ideology, if there is to be scriptural consistency. Now. I wouldn't go ahead. Go ahead.

Which is? I mean, yeah, I don't think. I don't think it's everyone's desire to be scripturally consistent. Yeah, I mean, not even conservatives, not all conservatives.

Yeah. Now, I mean, I'm siding with Joe here. I'm kind of lifting up out of our conversation with Joe and just asking this question out loud. I think we should be scripturally consistent, but Joe's stance and that puts some I'm telling you again, we gotta get him an honorary third host shirt. It puts him at odds with all of our opponents.

So.

Because if the number one goal is scriptural consistency, how come people slander us for not being black? As if our. Primary desire is to be accepted and lauded by the populace as Black Kings.

What? Why? Why is?

That the thing. And then why do they send us those messages, thinking we ought to care enough to react to it and change our ways? Lest we not be loved and liked and received by them anymore.

Uh.

Why does that seem to be the standard protocol for any black American who wants to follow Jesus? What's that about? Scriptural consistency doesn't seem to be high on. The. Priority list.

Oh.

But let me let me just say this and then we can move on to scoffing. I said the. Chad's argument is not Chad is not promoting discrimination. Chad is promoting freedom. And I think that's something that we have lost sight of is the cost of freedom. That that's the. Value of conservatism that conservatism values freedom enough to understand the cost. Yeah, cool. That's scriptural consistency. That's why people always ask the question coming from a leftist mindset, when they say, why would God make you know Adam and Eve if he knew they were going to send because the cost of love is evil? Because without freedom, there is no love. And I don't mean directly the cost, the cost is potential evil. The cost of someone freely choosing you is them potentially rejecting you.

Right.

That's the cost. That's scriptural consistency. Leftism, on the other hand, values harmony so much that it recognizes the cost. Of harmony. Freedom. Let's take away freedom. Then we'll be we'll have peace. What we need to do is take all their guns and take this thing away and take this thing away and take the tree away and cut all the fruit off of it. Then you won't have anybody eating from trees and fruits and then there won't need to be a Messiah. See, we fixed it.

Uh-huh.

That's not scripturally consistent. Visit. That the Lord even values our freedom so much that we have arrogant hearts when we say how come he hasn't done something about this by now?

Hello.

I mean. Yeah, Chad is not promoting discrimination, he's promoting freedom. And the big thing is this, the evil of segregation. Wasn't that a black person wasn't sitting next to a white person. It's that the government and their tyrannical overreach decided y'all aren't allowed to be together to be. Be together.

Right.

And if that is truly evil, then it is just as evil for them to walk into my house and then walk in the Billy John house and ****** us out and say y'all are forced to sit together.

MHM.

That is not desegregation. That's integration.

Right.

You're forcing it to happen. That's what he's highlighting. On a daily basis, we make discriminatory decisions. We make discriminatory decisions if I'm walking downtown with talani. If you're walking somewhere with holly, certain people will walk by. We'll continue our conversations, others we crossing the street, others. I'm making sure the safety's off. I don't have safety on the XDM, but I'm just saying, you know, like certain people.

Right.

I'm going to discriminate.

Mm-hmm.

I'm gonna act differently towards. And it should not be in a hateful sense. And that's what kind of a a racist heart does. And it's also what? Every human does in a sinful way. We're all guilty of it in a sinful way. You can't eradicate that with government overreach.

But we talked about that before with. Government comma and it kind of tracks government will create an issue and say hey, let's fix it. We can fix it, trust us, and it never works. It always becomes worse. Yeah. And now we have a month. Every year. That parts of the world can't celebrate with, yeah. Reminds us and them how much we hate one another, right? That's all it's for. That's all it's for. Painting in the football stadiums. You gotta watch it. You got to see it.

OK.

Yeah.

What do you think the response will be? Ohh man. I love those blacks. Yeah, that's right. Or is it hatred? That's right.

Scriptural consistency. All we want is unity, right and and our justification as black Americans is so justified because we strive and so hard. We've been working so hard for unity to be accepted here. That's all we want. Right, that's the argument. And that's why I feel justified that I can hate my neighbor. And I can I can. I can actually imbibe all of these false narratives that give me even further galvanized justification to hate my neighbor. Meanwhile, a black quarterback like Jamal Lamar Jackson can retweet. It's all about Jesus and people.

Jamal.

And people are. That would have been but but but. But yeah, people jumped down his throat. Yeah, because he retweeted. It's all about Jesus.

Probably heard it, yeah.

And it's about the fact that it was from Charlie Kirk and people say they don't like Charlie Kirk because of his political ideology. But at the crux of it all, they don't like him because of his skin.

Right.

And you know why white? People don't like Charlie Kirk. Is it because they know the rule is that you're evil because of your skin, and so they want to be on the good guys team? Yeah. I hate Charlie too, OK. That's that. That's that. Let's set up. This is going to be a semi lengthy one but. I want to dive into and I want people to understand this is we're talking to Christians now. Hopefully, if you're not a Christian listeners, you're convicted by it and you look into what we're talking about biblically. But scoffing when you, when you think of the word scoffer what comes to mind?

I guess. With prejudice dismissive. Sort of condescending. Ad hominem. Yeah, things like that.

Yeah. Yeah. I think for me the the keyword that you highlighted was dismissive.

Yeah.

I think that's the thing the the two bookends here is our unwillingness to actually seek out the truth. And the fact that in the end. The common denominator of those who don't know what the Lord is doing is that they're deceived. So people who don't want to seek what's true and being deceived, those are related concepts. I think about Jesus in parables. I remember somebody asked me a while ago. Why do you think Jesus taught in parables if he cared so much about people knowing? The truth. Then why didn't he just tell it to them plainly? And it's related to a dismissive, scoffing heart. Because Jesus knows that people who want to know the truth will find out what he was talking about.

Mm-hmm. Or.

They'll they'll find out his disciples, as silly as they were at the end. They probably sitting there while Jesus is teaching and the. He threw the seed on the rocky ground and they standing there like. And then the parable is over and they like, hey, I mean, you know, I already know. What it meant, but I. Mean just in case they don't know. What would you talk about again?

No.

But yeah, if you want to know the truth, you'll seek it out. And we are in not only a dismissive society, but we actually actively practice dismissing one another. It's in our social media. It's all over our comment sections. I mean it's the way we engage with each other to dismiss one another. Typical things that invite scarfing, what would you say?

That invites coffee, I mean.

Yeah, yeah.

I would say. Modern day would be any conspiracy. There used to be a time where it's like, remember the time where it was like are you with this? Anytime you had a a conspiracy about any given topic, so if it's about COVID. Are are you a endocrinologist? Are you know? Gotta be a specialist.

Ohh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's an effort.

I don't I. Don't. OK, something something ologist, right? Like you gotta be a neurologist. Talk about a brain disorder or, you know, I mean, like, you can't be a person who reads about a a neurologist and what they've said.

Yeah. Right.

You know. And but now it doesn't matter who you are. How much you've studied if people don't like what you said? Then they're automatically gonna. Diminish who you are. Correct. And your work doesn't matter.

And the irony is that I'll go ahead.

Oh yeah, they've done no work.

Yeah.

Usually. But if you said something they don't like or disagree with, or goes against their worldview, then you're dismissed.

Yeah.

Yeah, the, the, the irony is that you like you're right when you get asked your credentials, as if the credentials is what will win them over. I always bring this up. I loved it because body Balcom was teaching at the. The the, the, the. Ark police. I think Kentucky, whatever. And they were highlighting his credentials when they were inviting him up, that he studied at Oxford and he was like, yes, I I studied at Oxford. But he's like, you know what the people at Oxford call a gospel preaching fire, breathing six day creationist.

Love you.

An idiot. So all you have to do is when you have the credentials, is disagree with the ideology and you're still an idiot. And that type of heart, the Scriptures are very clear. The Christian ought to be far away from possessing a heart like that. Not only does it dishonor the Lord, it actually sets you up to be on the opposition, his opposition. I think there are a lot of people who profess to be believers, but they actually possess A scoffer's heart which a scoffer's heart is not a redeemed one. It's not a regenerate 1. And what I wanna do is I wanna highlight just a couple of ways that we can either know that we have a scalper's heart or that as children of God. You're practicing scoffing in a way that dishonors. So that we can turn from that. But you're right, things that invites golfing conspiracies, any conspiracies, potential conspiracy politics.

General, I mean.

Yeah. Sociology. Anything regarding society, celebrity, media and gossip. Reports on any political opponent of yours. It doesn't even. It doesn't have to. Be a political. Report. I'm just saying a report on any political opponent, and before I get into this, I am not reading off of these things and talking about this stuff from a platform higher than you, listener. I'm talking across from you as somebody who shares in these things, and it needs to repent and confess these things to the Lord. But the interesting thing about scoffing being invited whenever our political opponents is that Satan's crafty ways he is allowed anyone and everyone to become a political opponent. So it's your coworker. It's your parents. It's your children. Family. Your neighbors, it's your church family. That we have these scoffing mentalities against. You know, typically biblically scoffing and scorning. Are kind of. One and the same and in some translations will use scoff, where it the word scorn is in Hebrew and vice versa. And it was a very interesting definition for scorn. I forget where this was. Oh, this was then. The Holman Illustrated Bible Dictionary. And it says scorn is dislike. That turns to contempt and derision. Disc. Like that turns to contempt and derision. Hmm. And at that point when you are. When you hold someone in contempt, they cannot get out of it. Their status before you is. Perpetually beneath you and worthy of your punishment. Whether that be in your mind or whether it be physical. That's why we have racist epithets. That people don't call racist epithets like Karen. Right. That's a racist epithet. But we're OK with it because our society actually holds white Americans in derision. And you're not allowed to talk about that. Is that my phone? Yeah. That's crazy.

Am I?

How about we go ahead and? Turn that down. I think somebody told me that their ringer is the same whenever they hear that. And makes them look at. Their phone? Uh, I think it was Chris, but. Yeah, that, that's what that is. So it says score and also it appears in some Bible translations where scoff appears in others and scorn is often expressed by laughter. And so here's some passages that I want to highlight. I hope you guys are taking notes of this. I'll also make the show notes available with these passages and. Things like this. But Psalm 4413 through 14 says this. You have made us the taunt of your of our neighbors, the derision and scorn of those around us. You have made us a byword among the nations, a laughingstock among the peoples. We see this just all across the board. As I said regarding the first example, we see this with White American culture as people who grew up in black American culture, which you definitely see it also against Black American culture. Through these different clips that get shown where shaniqua and so and so is fighting it, but somebody showing some news clip. And then they have some. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have the new Windows. I mean, we're becoming a scornful, scoffing, hateful society. And Christians are sharing in it. Psalm 22, verse 6 through 8. This is a passage that Jesus quotes on the cross that my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Listen to what it says verse 6, but I am a worm and not a man scorned by mankind and despised by the people. All who see me mock me. They make mouths. At me, that phrase they make mouths is where that literal Hebrew word for scoff comes from. They make miles. That's what it means. They make miles of me. They wag their heads and he trusts in the Lord, or this is what they say he trusts in the Lord. Let him deliver him. Let him rescue him, for he delights in him. And so you see the picture of this scoffing that's happening where people are mocking. We see the ultimate picture in Christ, where people are mocking him and deriding him. And they're scoffing at him like, oh, you said that God can save, you want your head, let God save you. It we share in this.

Mm-hmm.

God, scorning his people. Lamentations 27. See, because there is a true scoffer. There, there can only be a true scoffer, and that's the Lord himself. He says this the Lord has scorned his. Alter disowned his sanctuary. He has delivered into the hand of the enemy the walls of her palaces. They raised a clamor in the House of the Lord, as on the day of the festival. I imagine him scoffing at the altar where these foe sacrifices are disowning the sanctuary where this foe praise exists. I think about all the different sanctuaries where these false worshippers are gathering, and the Lord is scoffing at their worship. He highlights this also in Amos. I want to say Amos 5 when he talks about northern Israel N Israel or, you know, Israel, the northern Kingdom of Israel, saying I'm not accepting your incense. I'm not accepting your sacrifice. It's also highlighted in Psalm 2. When is the question is asked why are these nations even going through all this trouble? Why are you raging against me? The Lord laughs and holds you in derision, it says. And I think that Christians ought to realize whether or not they're actually sharing in such a plot. Where the Lord himself can hold you in derision. Do we possess the heart of a scoffer? This dismissive heart man, can you think about that time 2020?

Going back to what?

I said earlier, did we have strong stances at the beginning of COVID? We just had questions. Questions. What what are the? Question get you there?

Scarf that. Stormed, bro.

Food.

Completely, Scott.

Or.

Parroted answers from TV. That's.

Yeah.

Literally. Dismissed. There. No, there has been no evidence of that. There has been no evidence of that. Like what?

Dismissed. Yeah, you were dismissed, and that's why I'm really harping on the heart of a scoffer, because it's not always going to be an explicit scarf. You are just going to behave like a scuffer. I highlighted this in our episode with Chad when I'm highlighting the fact that, hey, there is legitimate evidence that MLK was not only a womanizer. But that he was also a party to an assault on a woman. And if your response is yeah, but.

Yeah, huh.

I'm not saying you agree. I'm saying your antenna point up like mine did.

People hear us talking.

About this and they think that we were some people who were raised in an anti MLK House y'all. We were growing up black in this country just like.

You right. We wrote the news.

Reports in school in the paragraphs in the essays and all that stuff, we had all the ceremonies in church to MLK days and all that other stuff. I didn't do it reluctantly either. He was a hero. But there is something significant about a scoffer. That diametrically opposes. The ultimate thing that makes a Christian a Christian. The thing that makes a Christian a Christian is believing loyalty. It is believing that God is who he said he is. That he did what he said he did. He's doing what he says he's doing and will do what he says he will do. That's what salvation is. That's what it means to trust it. That's what connects every Christian with Abraham, with David, with Moses. It's what salvation comes through that believing loyalty. And that believing loyalty is your direct relationship with the truth. Who is a person? A scoffer has no concern for what's true. No concern. Genesis 18. When the Lord told Abraham and Sarah. That he would give them a child. It's a very kind of weird episode where they they just keep focusing on the fact that she laughed, and then the Lord tells her. I heard you laugh and she was like, I didn't laugh. And then it says yes, you did. It's just weird that the that the the author is focusing on that, but it's because. What an audacious response.

Mm-hmm.

To laugh and scarf the Lord himself. To disbelieve that he'll do what he says he'll do.

Uh-huh.

You have pharaoh, where Moses is like, hey, look, man, the, you know, the God of Israel said let. The people go and. Pharrell scoffs at Moses and Exodus 5/2. I think one of the biggest golfers we see is Goliath. Do you have that up? Yeah, you read that first Samuel 17. Starting verse 42.

And when the file is seen looking saw David, he disdained him. For he was but a youth, Ruddy and handsome in the parents. But the Philistine said to David, am I a dog that you come with me. Come to me with sticks. And the Philistine cursed David by his gods, the Philistine said to David. Come to me, and I will give your flesh to the birds of the air and the beasts of the field. Then David said to the Philistine, you come to me with a sword, with a spear, with the javelin. But I come to you in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of Armies of Israel, whom you have defiled. Defied. This day, the Lord will deliver you into my hand, and I will strike you down and cut off your head and I will give the dead bodies of the hosts of the philistines this day to the birds of the air and to the wild beasts of the earth. That all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel and that all his this and all this assembly may know that the Lord saves not with sword and spear, for the battle is the Lords and he will give you into our hands.

You know, people hear that story and I think when we hear these Bible stories, unfortunately, in our very institutionalized religious society, they are mere stories for people, for a lot of people, that it's not history. They're mere stories. But. I think when we see it as real history, rather than reading that narrative and saying this is how you're going to tackle your giants, you know this. Week. You can look deeper into the text and look at the heart of a scoffer that Goliath is. This golfing mentality, it says what in the beginning of. That. It says the word. Oh, he disdained him. That's the word for scoffing and scorning. He derided him. You serious? And I think that we possess in our society the heart of scoffers more than we realize that we are more like Goliath than we realize. And even if it's not expressed explicitly or outwardly that we don't believe that God will do what he says he'll do. And you know, I hate to keep coming back to it, but it it was, it's a really damaging time. COVID was in, in, in, in a manifest, multifaceted ways for the church, a very damaging time. We very easily and quickly gave up trusting in. The Lord.

Mm-hmm.

Obviously I'm speaking generally and you know what's interesting? The way David spoke, where you can kind of hear brass playing in the background the way he's. Talking if somebody talked like that during COVID, are we going to trust in the Lord? Are we gonna trust in, you know, the disease I'm trusting in the Lord and I'm not going to wear this thing. I'm not going to do this stuff. Those people were getting scoffed at in real time by Christians.

Mm-hmm.

They're getting scoffed. The Lord gave us minds. So we can use our minds. It's not a challenge of faith for me to say I'm going to trust in the Lord. Am I gonna trust my eyes or trust in the Lord? I'm driving with my eyes closed today. That's not what he gave us mines for. Brains for. But when it came down to the lack of community we were experiencing, even very practically, I was waterboarding myself by having a stupid cloth lifted up over my face, standing 20 feet away from people while I was preaching. That's silly sweat pouring into my mouth. People can't understand me. I can't even get through the word of God and. I finally had. To say I'm not wearing this again. Because at the end of the day, if you're saying that I could get sick and seriously injured, then the question is, is it worth it?

Right.

And the questions answer is yes, but they got scoffed at. And I think because people didn't like the way that's golfing feels, then they join their team and now they've got political opponents, and now they scoff at them. And we hold each other in derision. Now as we wrap. Up why am I addressing all of this? Because I think that there are many things that we dismiss in our society as Christians, where we're the ones who are supposed to have the answers. At least the point you know the the the main point. The reason why we're doing a Candace Owens episode is because she's uncovering some very dark things that Christians should at least be willing to sit with their neighbor and discuss. Yeah, but there's a lot of scoffing going on regarding Candace regarding the conversations she's having now. I hope you're hearing me and I'm going to reiterate this a lot. When we do the episode. I am not saying that you should agree with this. Everything that she's saying on there, we don't agree with everything that she says on her podcast. I think that's an example of human existence. No one agrees with every single person about every single thing. No one does. But to have a scoffer's heart is to be dismissive, and I think the ways that.

Alright.

We see that in. Real time. Have you noticed this? Tell me if this is wrong. Do people seem interested in like sex trafficking awareness? They.

They they seem interested in saying.

It. Yeah, like I'm saying, like in a specific like our context like silver spread, Silver Spring contexts can be ripe for people who want to do sex trafficking. Awareness, right. Is that right?

They know the IDF has been. Yeah, yeah. Sad to say, yeah.

Now what's interesting is that those same people I've I've had a couple of conversations with people who want to do sex trafficking awareness, and I'll bring up stuff like Mel Gibson calling Hollywood institutionalized pedophilia. Darren, take a guess what type of response I got.

Just stop it then. Yeah, like, I mean, like I said, the premise, if you can, if you believe the. Premise. That the world is evil. And the only one good. Is God yeah? Then that it shouldn't be that shocking. We got in our neighborhood a big gay flag. Everyone's welcome here. That's what they focus on. Racism and and sex.

Yeah.

And meanwhile. People. Children. Mm-hmm. Are trafficked all over the.

World. Mm-hmm. Real time.

Real time right now, hopefully in our city, right down the street from me in DC.

I'm like right? Yeah, right. That's exactly correct. We we think about the headlines that are framed to us as we're doing political warfare, you stupid Trumpers or what was it called Q Anons? They'll give you. These titles so that we can scoff at 1:00. Another meanwhile, the thing that we're semi debating is whether or not there is a. Network of Deviants who are praying on young children sexually and I want to tell you listener and please hear me. The answer is unequivocally yes.

Mm-hmm.

It's yes. And wear scoffing at each other. There are people who will come out and they'll say something and we scoff at them because somebody put some music to it on our social media clip and then we get a newsletter that says that they, you know, ended their own lives and in their figment of our imagination in a couple of months we have the heart of scoffers in our society. How dare we come up with? Any type of condemnation for slavers. That existed. Hundreds of years ago.

In America, in America, because they're, they still exist now.

They still exist now and we don't care. Not only that, we scoff at the notion and we don't do it directly. We do it indirectly. We do it indirectly. It's fun, right? It's fun to read about Britney Spears shaving her head. It's fun to see Amanda bines and all these other Hollywood, you know, kids that grow up in that terrible place.

It's our entertainment.

It's our entertainment. It's fun to listen to Kanye West, go crazy and watch his family get ripped to shreds while he has girls growing up in that nonsense, going through God knows what. It's fun. And I don't want to be crass, but I think just like with the abolitionist for abortion, do I need you to realize the devastation happening to children right now that we, at the very best, scoff at and at the very worst. Fund.

MHM.

Right now, as you're listening to my voice, there is a child that was stolen away from somewhere and the rest of their lives is being transformed through the sexual deviation of a predator. That might just be a famous person, or somebody you'll never meet or hear about or know. But they all belong to the same network. That connects us to an even be an even bigger network that Darren highlighted A sinful world. Who but anyone else could understand that paradigm but the Christian?

Right.

So before I get off, I wanna highlight the reasons why we're so willing. To scoff at. That darkness there is because people don't even believe biblical darkness. Yeah, they they scoff at the notion of biblical darkness. I just saw Babylon B Post, which the Babylon B makes golfing a hobby. I'm not saying that in a condemning thing. Well, I think it's good for the Christian to scarf at the plans of Satan. And satanic ideologies. And we wage war and we tear down lofty arguments waged against the knowledge of God. We hold the devil and his children in the OR the ideologies of his children in derision.

OK.

He doesn't like to be mocked. The devil doesn't. It's good. I think it was good for I. I keep saying, Isaiah. To say Ohh is your God using the bathroom, go ahead, yell a little louder. Maybe he didn't hear you. The enemy doesn't like to be mocked, therefore mock him. He's foolish. But I just saw a post from the Babylon Bee. That said, a men's Bible study once again derailed by mention of the Nephilim. And I, you know, somebody said that to me and I was like, so basically they're saying that a men's Bible study was derailed by somebody mentioning the Bible. I get it's meant to be a joke, but I think the reality of that joke is that people scoff at the notion of people wanting to study things like Genesis 6 and. Have a a. Good biblical understanding of what it means that sons of God came into daughters of man and produced Nephilim. We scoff at it, actually. I think we scoff at the fact that there are families who have made it their lifes business until they die. To find out exactly what happened to their loved one in September 9th. I mean September 11th, 2001. We scoff at that notion because they're just nutty conspiracy theorists, tinfoil wares, right, tinfoil hat people we scarf at them. There are so many people, especially in the dark institution of Hollywood, who have told us the darkness of Hollywood. And when Hollywood comes to us and say, hey, they're just crazy people scoff at them, we say yes, master.

MHM.

And we scoff. We scarf. So yeah, I'm. I'm just wondering if. People realize whether or. Not they have a scoffer's heart. If you can see it, if you understand it. I think our response was sober minds should be to repent and recognize that. There is going to be a deception. Given. In regards to the end times. This this is what it says in 2nd Thessalonians 2. Says now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. I'm hoping that every professing Christian knows that that is intrinsic to their faith, that Jesus comes again.

Uh-huh.

Your faith. What's not intrinsic to your faith is your support for America or Israel or Palestine. That's not intrinsic. That might be a fruit of. Your faith, it's not intrinsic. What's intrinsic is Jesus is coming again.

Right.

And are being gathered together to him. We ask you, brothers not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or spoken word or letter seeming to be from us to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way, for that day will not come unless the rebellion. Comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed. The son of destruction who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called God or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the Temple of God, proclaiming himself to. Be God, do you not remember that when I was still with you, I told you these things and you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time for the mystery of lawlessness is already at work and only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. And then the lawless. One will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. The coming of the Lattice 1 is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders. I need people to hear that there will be spectacular things that happen. I hope you're not a scoffer. When it comes down to Christians who talk about signs and wonders happening in this world.

Umm.

I know, I know that there are people like, you know, people in California, the Bethel churches that, you know, put gold dust in a ventilation system. And they say, oh, look, the Holy Spirit forming and then you can go and do research and find out. Hey, you lied. And you call them to task. You still ought not scarf.

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That's being dismissive. You call them the task on their lie. But there are signs and wonders happening. You ought not scoff at that. There will be false signs and wonders and with all wicked deception, for those who are perishing because they refuse to love the truth and so be saved. And listen to this therefore. And that therefore is there because there are people who refuse to love the truth and so be safe. That's Brandon talking. Going back to verse 11. Therefore, God sends them a strong delusion. So that they may believe what is false in order that all may be condemned, who did not believe the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. A scoffers heart is different from that of a believers heart, and that the believer has ignorance too. The believer doesn't have all knowledge. But the believer has a relationship with the truth, and they know the truth to be a person. And they're very interested in the truth remaining the truth. A scoffer is disinterested. But then get this. This is one part of the definition I heard in a Hebrew word for scoffer. They have courage in their foolishness. It's courage. They're bravely stupid. You come to me with information and I. Say that's not. True, knowing girl, while I didn't look anything up that you said, I'm not going to. Look it up after, but I have. Courage in my stupidity. We ought to reject that heart y'all. We ought to reject that heart, be sober minded. We got the Candace Owens episode coming up. I want you guys to reflect on this. How do you feel about the evils in? This world. Sexual abuse. Broken families, slavery, child sacrifice, sex trafficking, slavery in general, did I? Say that already.

Yeah.

There are a lot.

Of fun conspiracy theories who killed Jeffrey Epstein? Those are real people, dog. We're talking about real murders, real children being abused at the hands of people who know how to put on a suit and smile and those same people tell you to hate your neighbor and you do it. How do you feel about that? Have you guys been praying for celebrities at? All. Not saying that like, that's the mark of a Christian. But I'm saying, do you pray for them? Or scoff at them. I think 1 is closer to the mark. Of a Christian. Our celebrities, rural people to you politicians, your pastor. Preformed. The world is dark, the days are evil. And we have the Gospel of truth near us in our mouth. How dare we be scoffers? Any last thoughts there no. Guys, thank you for listening this episode. Of black and blue. We're guaranteed to hear one of. Two things, our humble opinion.

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