#196 Our Review of 'Sinners': Unmasking the Secrets of Public Relations and Entertainment

News comes and goes but it is never too late to address old things on Black and Blurred. In this episode, we are addressing the love that movies like SINNERS received even with its overt anti-Christian narrative. 

We start at the beginning - addressing the ongoing war for your attention through provocative narratives and propaganda, All of this has been going on for a long time and the information about it is public knowledge! Lastly, we address what the movie SINNERS is really doing in the hearts of its watchers and in society. Has the BLM narrative devolved into explicit pagan, occult worship? 

Want to keep up with the links, articles, quotes within the show? Check out the SHOW NOTES 

Chapters

• 0:00 Prelude and Nearing 200th Episode
• 9:44 Episode Start - Hollywood and Society
• 21:57 How Entertainment Shapes Narratives
• 27:30 Black Entertainment Television: Terrible or Nah?
• 31:27 The Overton Window Has Shifted
• 48:04 You Should Know About Edward Bernays
• 57:39 SINNERS and the Grotesque Notion of 'Black Worship'
• 1:19:12 ASTRO World, SINNERS, and what was right in front of your eyes
• 1:35:20 Ephesians 5 - Awake, O Sleeper!

Transcript

Daren, we're back. We're back with another episode. I haven't done that part yet.

Hi.

This is the. This is the prequel. This is the pre intro because it's been such a long time I think we should just have a little chitchat with the people from the podcast. It's been a while. We or at least I'm in transition.

Correct. Yeah.

And so things are slower, but naturally. We do things slower because. We're not. We're not really interested in keeping up with the. You know.

Yeah.

Yeah, let's just catch up with the people. So, one, something coming up for. Us. We've got episode 200 coming up for us and that crazy guys, we're we're working on climbing up to 200 episodes now. Thing for the people who do multiple episodes in a week, they do that very quickly, but it was a big deal for us. So you guys have been listening and and rocking with us for a while. I mean think about what's happened through this podcast. We have met new friendships. I've had people stay at my house. Multiple times I've got a new great friend and Joey, through podcasting I have stayed at other people's houses through podcasting. Jilani and I took a great trip to Michigan with new friends and met a bunch of people, met people who listen to podcasts as well, and in all in between. Meeting a bunch of brothers and sisters in Christ through this podcast, it's been pretty incredible. I mean, I I, I, I still run into people who just started the podcast. They they like, they're just starting to listen to it. And you know what they all say? You guys were angry in the? Beginning we were we were.

Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

You know, I I want to read. I got an e-mail from a listener. He has sent us a couple of encouraging messages, but this was a this is. Ohh, I actually meant to read this a while ago and I forgot and so I want to read it now.

How things are.

And it comes from Jim Tony. This was after I did that episode on Austin Metcalf and Carmelo Anthony, which I think it's say again, no. You. Yeah, go ahead. Speak on it.

So. See the. Some camera footage that may or may not. So. That Carmelo was acting in self-defense. A lot of eyewitnesses were saying that he wasn't. I think self-defense. Yeah, that there was no like, you know, they weren't. They weren't jumping him or there was no, like, crazy scuffle that happened that he had to.

Yeah.

Defend himself or. You know him, even having a. Weapon on school property. Was already illegal, yeah.

There. Understand how things are.

Right, a bunch of things that should not be excused.

Yeah.

I really wanted to address it because I in that episode what I was highlighting was the need for discipleship for young men, and in in speculative thought, I threw Austin Metcalf in that category of. Needing to be discipled now be that as it may, I still think that that's true. If this video footage is telling the truth, that there was no scuffle, that this dude flat out killed him just because he wanted to kill him, then I'm wrong and really saying that Austin Metcalf.

To understand how.

You. Was dealt with pride in in his response. Because, you know, the official narrative was, Carmelo Anthony said. I dare you to touch me and then Austin Metcalf touched. Him. And so I was responding to that narrative, which we don't know if it's true. So I'm. I'm. I'm taking that back and. We'll see what comes out to be true, but from that episode.

Understand how things are.

Our brother, Jim Tormey, said this once again, thanks for your podcast. Theologically speaking, I find we are in a great I find we are in great agreement. In your recent podcast you said something you have said before that if Austin Metcalf had been discipled, you might not have taken on Carmelo. I agree, but where was he going to be discipled. The Church of America has long abandoned true discipleship.

OK.

I would even say there is no understanding of this of this at all in the United Methodist Church. It is constantly being said we are to make disciples. The problem is we don't know what that means. Then church growth, movement destroyed any semblance of discipleship. We see discipleship as get them saved and. Putting them to work, quote UN quote parking cars. We have failed to properly do what we the Church are called to do, which is to walk alongside those who come to confess Jesus as Lord. And this takes effort and time. I unfortunately have done the same, but this is about to change where I currently serve, I will begin mentoring a young married man on how to work on sanctification. I have attached a paper I've written about this. If you have time to read it, great. If not, no worries. I love you, my brother and him. Jim, if you're listening, I still have to read that and I am interested in reading that. I'm just very bad at remembering things like that. But Jim touches on something that's related to this episode that we're going to do today. Discipleship. I mean, obviously it's a pillar and what it means to.

You have to understand how things are wrong.

Be Christian. And I think that's why we can recognize the gaping hole in modern Christianity, American Christianity, discipleship. Obviously, this is a sweeping generalization, but a lot of people in America who are Christian are feeling the lack of discipleship. And they're feeling hungry.

You have to understand how things are.

And a desire to be discipled mentored. To grow in the faith, to grow in scripture, but majority of our time as believers is being spent fighting on whether or not we ought to maintain the faith. And that's unfortunate. But thanks for sending that message, Jim. I want to give this quick update. I have continued to be, I'm sorry I've continued fundraising for the church plant and that's what the transition time is. Hello. You know, I don't get automatic updates when people support. I've had support meetings with people who I have both known already and people who I've met through this podcast, people who have reached out to me through the podcast saying that they want to support, and I've had meetings.

Now the genre.

Them and I'm so thankful for you guys's willingness to reach out to me, support the church plant and meet with me so I can get to know you. I'm. I'm so grateful to God. However, when I look on my list of supporters, I see names that I don't know. I see people who have given who I have not met and don't know. Now it's perfectly fine, but that's the way you want it to be. I'm not wanting to know you. Name so that I can thank you as if you deserve it or I deserve your support. Whatever. Whatever may be your reason for anonymity, I I genuinely find joy in getting to know you that I would know who I'm partnering with because we're on the front lines together. That is my vision for this. In the same way the Lord has used his church to combat. Darkness in the majority of the names of the individuals of the sons and daughters that he has used to combat darkness, none of us will know those names until we see each other in glory. That's what I want. That's what. That's why I'm making an appeal to people and supporting the church, this church plant, and that I'm wanting you to join me on the front lines of nameless individuals in the Kingdom of God to combat darkness through helping to plant gospel centered biblical preaching and discipline.

Understand how things are.

Searches, but with that caveat, I personally would like to know you if I'm standing next to you and I'm perfectly OK if you're not OK with that. But I just wanted to make that appeal to you. Please reach out to me. You you can see my e-mail in the show notes. In the link to support in the show notes information on how to connect with me in the show notes. If you've supported and you haven't, let me know and you're OK with me knowing, let reach out to me, reach out to me. But anyway, I have no idea what we want to do for episode 200, but yeah.

And.

What's your thoughts? What should we do for episode 202? Hundred Mark 200 episodes? Your DMS send us your emails comment on this episode and Spotify be stay tuned for like new looks and things like that as we celebrate 200 episodes new branding. Hopefully some aspect of a revitalized page on YouTube and things like that.

No.

But enough of that. It's time to dig deep into this episode, today's episode where it's not directly about discipleship, but. As a matter of fact, it is about discipleship. In a way. It is. It is public relations media and the war on your mind. Let's get to it.

Understand this very worried secrecy is Republic.

Done. All you can ever ask. Think or imagine according to the power that's working within you.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Black and blurred. Hi, that's Darren. It's me. I'm Brandon. We're gonna jump into this, Darren.

Yes.

What would you say? The movie sinners. The Book of Genesis. And Travis Scott have in common.

They all include. Something spiritual.

Who knows? We'll find out. We'll find out. We we, you know, I had zero plans of seeing the movie centers now. You haven't seen it. Oh, no. You saw it. You saw it before me. Right. Yeah. Yeah. OK.

Yeah, totally. Watch it on my.

Thing. That's true. That's true. And I didn't do that. But the reason I I I didn't plan on seeing it either, but so many people were talking about it. I always like to watch a movie to be able to talk about it. That's why I think we're in the same boat. We watch movies to be able to comment on it. That might not be people's cup of tea. But I don't think there's any other reason to watch a movie unless you are willingly going in to be manipulated. I think you should be able to digest. And analyze what you're digesting. And so more and more people were reaching out and asking me if I'd seen it. It came up in our men's Bible study. And so I said, OK, well, I'm going to watch it. But before we touch on sinners, we have a we we wanna people. We want to guide people on why we're talking about the movie sinners and what we want to talk about. Specifically, what we want to talk about is how people need to be aware of the goals of Hollywood. We this is not new. Information on our part. Yes. I can't even. I don't even know how many years ago it was. We did out of dark. What is? It called out of shadows.

Shoot. That was early, man, yeah.

Yeah, that episode. But you know, I actually reached out to a couple people on Facebook. I just posted a status I like to kind of like engage people on there that way. And this is this is what I asked. I I said let's ponder together. The full thoughts of the movie centers is is in this episode, but I finally got around to seeing centers and obviously my thoughts won't shock people who know me. However, after reading articles about the film, I'm more inclined to find out how many people believe that Hollywood has an earnest desire to educate the populace toward flourishing. Is my question if we with discernment, look to film and entertainment as a means to understand the world and grow through that understanding, will society be a better place or worse off? Said more plainly, this is me not reading. This is just speaking. If we even decide to say, look, I'm going to have some discernment and I'm going to use Hollywood as a way to understand the world and grow through that understanding. If everyone made that decision, would the world be better or worse off? And I wanted to hear people's thoughts and a couple of people responded to Roe's posting said much worse. Film Entertainment often negates or over exaggerates parts of life for dramatic effect. So a lot of choices being portrayed on screen, if made in real life, would probably be probably far more detrimental. Jeremy Webb, who is a cinephile, like me, said I don't know about society, but I've been abundantly blessed through a lifetime of thinking about and thinking through movies. My earliest movie memory, was of being allowed to stay up and watch Spielberg's first feature film Duel on television. I'm not going to read all of every comment. What money says very much worse cast fatty alofa he just asked is it is, it is in a podcast, novella, Cruise or Homie says no one should use Hollywood as a guideline that celebrates and antagonizes, decline or morality. Evan. A friend that I've met through the podcast and through Center for Biblical Unity just said I just watched conclave at a church movie night last night. And although Hollywood did not provide a template for Christian worldview, what these movies still allow us to do today is to reflect on the world and where it is in its thinking. We can then reflect and not accept, but identify and point out where it parts where it, where it parts company with a Christian worldview. So that's with the discernment piece, right? And he he wrote a whole long thing. I'm not. I'm just not going to read. Our friend Jacob said Paul used cultural things to understand people and how to share the gospel effectively. I I sort of corrected that and said that Paul used cultural things to communicate the gospel. He didn't use culture to understand the gospel. But yeah, I'll, I'll. I'll leave it as that. No, I'm going to read this one too. My circle of friends includes both sides of the my circle of friends includes both sides of the racial spectrum. So there's only two sides of the racial spectrum, but a vast number of my white friends and colleagues who have seen sinners were impacted in a positive way. Regarding your thoughts about whether film entertainment negates or exaggerates life, I would contend that it more often than not authentic. And addresses authentic and addresses reality better than many of our other social influences, really. So it's, you know, Speaking of spectrum, there's a spectrum of responses in this post here. I would say majority of people feel that it would be detrimental to use Hollywood as such a read or standard to use film and arts and entertainment, and then some people.

Yeah.

They actually will be good. I think that it would be overwhelmingly detrimental, but I'm not here to give you my reason on that. I'm here. To show you. How it's been detrimental? That's what we're here to. Do. That's what we're highlighting. There is a an article. This article is from historyglow.net. And it's from an article titled the Effect of Entertainment Shaping Minds, Emotions and Society. It comes from 2023. This says this one of the most potent effects of entertainment is its ability to evoke emotions and create empathy. Engaging with entertaining content triggers emotional responses ranging from laughter and joy to fear, sadness and empathy for characters struggles. I think all the stuff that was happening in LA. All, all the, all the stuff that's been happening in LA, I think I I I know is a result of whatever history.net just said, taking root in a lot of people's hearts and minds. Overtime. Yeah. Remember our boy Jesse Smollett, juicy, smelly, a juicy smellier. Why on Earth would he ever be so audacious to do such a? Thing what? Why?

I believe he was made to do it but.

Yeah. Why? Why? Why?

Yeah. Well, because it affects public opinion. Obviously, it's to create racism, right? Got to create it where it's not.

Correct.

Could create civil unrest where it's not, yeah.

And although juicy Smellier's plan failed. And he was made a laughing stock. What he failed to do Hollywood has been doing for decades, for decades.

MMM.

Through arts and entertainment, there's another article. It's called it's. This is from forbes.com in 2019 and the article was called mindset matters. The influence of entertainment and the significance of culture change in the business of a new decade. Is a quote. There has been no greater disseminator of culture in the history of humankind than that of the entertainment industry. From the media business that includes film, television, advertising, advertising to video to video games, the industry has provided the mode. To not only define trends, shape culture, but influence our identities in the most profound ways. It is because of this very influence that the industry itself must be very cognizant of both the power it wields and the value it holds on the everyday lives of people and society. That's Forbes magazine. Doing more than many American churches. Won't do. Don't read that last part. It is because of this very influence that the industry itself must be very cognizant of both the power it wields and the value it holds on the everyday lives of people and society. I believe that the industry is very well aware of the power it holds.

Yeah.

Very well aware. And I believe our real world examples, I think that we've seen. More prevalently. Are in these categories ethnic divisions? Homosexuality. And Christianity. The industry is very well aware on the power it wields in how to influence people's thinking regarding ethnic divisions. I'll just say sexual immorality or sexuality. And Christianity. You remember? I I want to say this is probably the first clip I saw of Ben Shapiro. I don't know what it was, but let me just play it, but the context was him being asked a question about. Why the disparity exists between black Americans and white Americans? And Ben Shapiro answered the question. Well, that's because the influence of culture has permeated black Americans far greater.

Than other cultures.

Do you remember that clip? I'm. Going to play it? No. OK, here it is. Disparity how can you argue that racism is not a driving factor in income inequality?

Because it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with culture. And when you have a culture that doesn't, and when and when it. You know what? Explain to me, you explain to me why black kids aren't graduating high school. You explain that one to me. Explain to me why black kids are shooting each other in rates significantly higher than whites are shooting each other, explaining why 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of the murder. Explain to me why the why? The number of blacks and black kids in prison not for innocent reasons, not for walking down the street. Getting pulled into a prison is so high. Explain it has nothing to do with culture. Explain to me why the single motherhood rate in the black community jumped from 20% to 70% in the same course of time. The civil rights movement has made such tremendous strides. Is America more racist now than it was in 1960? And if it is, please explain to me how that happened.

I think the kids call that a mic drop. Oh.

Do you remember that now that I see it? Yeah.

You know what's really sad about that? That and a very serious question.

Yeah, the smug reaction of the black people.

Correct.

Who it affects?

I mean, it's a very serious question and even if you disagree with his answer, it's a serious conversation. Yeah, and their rebuttal is to throw their hands up and laugh.

For here he go again, that naked.

Mm-hmm. What you.

Started with some that's that whole.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's on to something. Yeah, because the numbers that he gave people cannot like his tone, people cannot like the way he talks. People cannot like the the words per second he speaks, which is quite fast, but. What he addressed is indisputable. And what you're seeing? In society amongst Black Americans, as we focus on black Americans, this doesn't just happen to black Americans, but we're going to focus on that. Which are seeing in society amongst black Americans. Are the fruits. Of their response to Hollywood's discipleship.

Yeah.

That's what you're seeing. You watch the BT awards.

Yeah, you know, I watched you know, snippets of it. I didn't watch it when it was on, but I watched. Enough of it to understand. That it was church. It was the club. It was 106 and park. And.

Woke woke. Was there anything hinting at ethnic divide? In the beauty award.

Ethnic divide? Yeah. Tyler Perry gave some weird. Sermon or so. I don't know what he's doing, but.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He gets up and talks about how black people have to, obviously. We're snatched from their homes in Africa and our footprints on water. That's why they can't squash our dreams some. You know, word mess. You know that initially we get people go woo. But really said nothing. You know the the the. The billionaire film director or millionaire film director. Is trying to relate to the average black person in poverty, which isn't the average black person. I mean the average.

MHM.

Black person in poverty. The average black person is on poverty, but that's what they would want you to believe with all those black people, successful people in the BET awards want to convince us that we are underprivileged. That white people are overprivileged. And it's their fault. They're under privileged. Yeah, because they snatched us from Africa. Snatches from Africa, where we're happy. Yeah, we were happy there. Snatched us up, brought us over here and taught us that Christian mess. And now we're worth all you know that Christian, that Bible that teaches us to murder each other? That's what they. That's what they gave us. And that's why we do it.

Yeah. All that gets packaged in those things I I to be honest with you, I can't tell you the last time I watched. An. Award show but.

Yeah.

What about?

Sexual licentiousness and morality was any of that, and be it.

That there's always. Yeah, there's always crude jokes and, you know, and it's odd because it'd be right after Donnie McClurkin just said and you can stand and then Kevin Hart, who hosts the show, gets up and makes a joke about somebody's sexual. Something it's almost like it's it's this.

Yes.

This this blackness like wrapped up in a ball and doesn't matter which section of it you decide to address at any moment, it's. All acceptable, right? There's not going to be 1 Christian there and it gets. We just sang about XYZ and you just made a joke about this. Nope. Maverick city. They all there, you know, laughing it up. Yeah, so it's.

MHM.

It's uh. They don't know that the BET awards. Is. Given to them by the puppet masters. To help condone what it is they're doing at the BET awards.

Hmm.

To help, they don't know that they are further creating the divide with the BT awards.

Yeah.

As the black people think in their minds, be teased for us, not the whites and the MTV 4. That's yeah, right. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, BT. 'S presence for the you know, propagates the divine.

Yeah.

So like, like we gonna have our own channel y'all, cause the world is oppressive. So.

Uh.

We're gonna. We're we're going. To be the ones to train you to cheat on your spouses and to sleep with each other. And you know without with impunity, and to neglect fatherhood. And motherhood, we're going to be the ones to treat you, to treat train you. How to do that.

As past as Tyler Perry is us, all his movies genre, that's it.

Yeah. With it, so it's giving you it's influential and training people how to think about ethnic divisions, homosexuality or sexual immorality and Christianity.

New.

And it happens probably simultaneously it you know, 2-3 birds with one stone really. Like you just said is like while somebody's on stage twerking and then winning an award saying, I want to thank my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. They're training you and what to think about sexual morality and Christianity at the same time. Yeah.

Gorilla performed with Maverick City, I believe you know some gospel songs she did.

Yeah. What is a gospel song? Don't know. So in addition to that, I do think and and we've addressed this and I think a lot of. People have addressed this that. Still, honing on, still staying in the the the context of black Americans, black Americans are traditionally conservative. I'm not talking balance. I'm talking life. Yeah, lifestyle is traditionally conservative, even with the falling away.

Lifestyle, right?

Of fathers in home. Over the past couple decades, lifestyle has still been very conservative. You'll honor your parents. You will obey authority, right? You you will engage in marriages between men and women. That, that is that has been the case. So much so that even up until recently it was taboo to just come out waving some flag saying this is the way I live y'all. That was taboo.

Right.

People were afraid to do that. I'm just addressing the way it was people's fear of doing that was a response to the fact that it's overwhelmingly conservative culture. And that is something that has been. Deeply under attack. Intentionally.

And the BET awards helps facilitate that, the.

BT Awards helps facilitate that.

Yep. It's like, how can we get to the black people just them right? I mean, that's it. You can attack their faith.

Right.

All in one little show. Yeah, and go on nostalgia. Ohh. Is that Ray J? Ohh Dang Leo perform. And then Israel ought and gets up and sings a gospel song, and then we all good.

Yeah, it's like, what's happening here? What's happening here? People are familiar with this phrase. The Overton window. Now Overton Window is typically a political concept, and it describes a range of ideas or policies that are considered acceptable. In that realm of politics. But I'm. Taking it out. Of the political context, and I'm just putting it in society because there is a societal Overton window and that Overton Window decides what's acceptable in Hollywood is who moves that window for us. Once Upon a time, married couples, when they were shown in their bedrooms, they slept in separate beds.

Yeah.

They slept in separate beds.

I drink with Jeannie. I Love Lucy. Yeah.

Now the Overton window has pushed us to now that would be that would seem ludicrous. People would think that that's ridiculous. As a matter of fact, people would think that it's ridiculous to never see somebody kiss.

Yeah.

Not only that. UM. Were passed separate beds and kissing. We are now at full full blown ***********. In film and in television.

Right.

Yeah, I told you that someone asked me about a series called The Watchmen. And it was based off of a movie, the Watchmen. Yeah, it's after. So the movie exists and that came out what probably 10 years ago or something that maybe late? Yeah, a long time. And the series stems from that and and and and in good Hollywood fashion it it keeps the cycle. It makes sure that it influences our thinking on the ethnic divide on sexual licentiousness. And Christianity. But this. Was very.

I I I.

I really I was angry and watching it and I was angry in the same way that of watching, like moonlight. Now, mind you, I don't have desires to watch these things. I know that these things exist. I knew that moonlight existed. I knew that Watchmen existed. I didn't watch them. What makes me end up watching those things is when people bring questions to me and say, man, it was something in this that I want you to weigh on, weigh in on. And then I'm like, well. Me. Watch it. And with me going in there blind. I don't know what I'm actually going in for now, as I've sent a file. You have to be very good at being able to have discipline when you see explicit things happening. You need to know. How to Fast forward past it? You need to know how to Fast forward past it. Now something is interesting there because a lot of film and TV they put dialogue during those things now.

Yeah.

You got a murder mystery and they out here revealing who the killer is while they having a date on pornographic session. Just so that you can want to watch it. But. You gotta have discipline. So when those things pop up, it catches me off guard. Moonlight was very explicit and. But I'm talking about Watchmen in the same way. Watchmen has superheroes, not only superheroes. As a men who are superheroes, not only men, a black man who is a superhero and not only is a black man who's a superhero, he's a black man who's a superhero, who is in a homosexual relationship with another man. White man who's a superhero. And not only do they have that in Watchmen, it is the most explicit. Things have been in film regarding sex scenes and men. Like that. Showing ******. Like that. And the only reason that would be there is to follow the steps that were laid out by our friends that we addressed in this podcast. Let me make sure I can find. Them. Uh, yeah. Harvard's Marshall, Kirk and Hunter Madsen. Madison. Both Harvard professors of propaganda and psychology, or I would say marketing and psychology, and they laid out their plan on how to normalize homosexuality in America. When we talk about these things, people can be upset that we talk about them, but at the end of the day, I'm just telling you what's true. That there was an actual plan to make sure that you find things acceptable more and more and more and more. To influence you that will ultimately end up influencing your life, the life of your children, then the life of society that plan to normalize this in America was three steps desensitization, jamming and conversion. The desensitization is so that you can just see it. You just have to see it if you're watching real world. You're watching survivor. When those things come out in the beginning, you gotta make sure that there's someone who calls themselves a homosexual. On that show, it doesn't have, don't have to dive into it. They don't have to talk about how when they started living that way, whatever. Just hear it. So that you could become desensitized to it. What will also happen is you need to have people who disagree with this lifestyle. They need to be picked up against or they need to be juxtaposed with people we all agree are disgusting. Nazis, KKK, fascists, whatever it is. And in film, Darren, who are some of the most disgusting people that film highlights.

That film, that film's highlight? Yeah. Usually racists.

Right.

Now, if it's not a racist matter of fact, let me ask you this. You watched the Last of Us, right? Right. Who are the most disgusting people when it comes down to villains on the Last of Us?

It's one of the most disgusting people they were.

First season.

What's? First, first season. Ohh there was like like Cannibal Christian organization. Yeah, who? Who was also raped? Women, right. They were terrible. I mean, I don't know.

It's going, it's going to be the Christians. Yeah, it's going.

I don't even know how they're Christian. He just ordered your dressing, yes.

To be by. Title the Christians. If you have Christians in a context in film and it's not a Christian movie, they're going to be the most disgusting. People's Handmaid's Tale Last of Us, I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry The West Wing. Whatever it is, they're going to be the worst type of person that's jamming.

Yes. And what's the other show? Did you watch the show? What's the Michigan show, Ozark?

Michigan.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ozark, that's right. That's right. Yeah, they're going to be the most disgusting people. And then you have conversion and conversion of what you're seeing now. But where? Because you've been desensitized to it and because you don't want to be compared to the most despicable. People on Earth, you better not say anything when we have story. The. Time. You better not say anything when we put it into the curriculum, and not only that, your children are going to leave you because you are a bigoted parent. Your children are gonna despise you and hate you. All I'm saying is that this is laid out and documented. It's documented it will be in our show notes of this episode. The file will be in our show notes. It's in an article called after the ball. And there's a host of other information in there as well, but it's direct influence and it's intentional. It's intentional influence and and and people have to pick something when you when you have these black Americans in this country. Which I'm not saying that the Harvard's thing was towards black Americans. That's towards America, that's everyone. But I'm saying this episode is honing in on Black America for a reason. When you have black Americans saying, oh, we don't trust the government because the government doing this and they try to. Do what did, Tyler. Perry say they're stealing. Our books, they're doing this stuff, yeah. If you can take a breath deep breath and when you come up for air after espousing that nonsense, you know what else is happening that they are doing. Whoever you think they are, there is another they who is actually emasculating men. You're one of them. There's another they who's actually dehumanizing women. You're one of them.

Sorry.

There's another vein who's actually destroying motherhood? You're one of them. They they they there is a bigger they. And the Christian knows that the ultimate they isn't human. It's not a human.

Hmm.

The war isn't against humanity. That's why humans are trying to warn other humans. And saying that there's a sickness we suffer from as humans, you can't deny that there's a sickness we suffer from. But guess what? Hollywood is going to tell you there's a sickness, too, and all you need to do. You just ask the ancestors for help.

Mm-hmm.

We're not quite there yet.

Blame the disease and white. People, right? Yeah, that's right.

That's the sickness white people. What what we're seeing a lot of in theaters today is is the theories of Puppet Masters in practice. Mm-hmm. That. That's what it is. When when we're looking out in the world today and we see riots and we see licentiousness, we see licentious lifestyle choices. We see flaunting abortions, we see people flaunting immorality. We see family divisiveness, all of that stuff. We're seeing the theories of these puppet masters. Carried out in practice. That's what it is. That's what Ben Shapiro was addressed.

Yeah. And a lot of these men and women that helped to create and and and and and infiltrate schools. I mean, you mentioned Harvard, right? Harvard wasn't always a school that would produce. These kinds of studies. Right. But you have people like that who are so willing. To see a plan like this go through, I mean, they won't. Even most of them will die before. Some of these things come to fruition, but it's something they believe. Yeah, something bigger than just a plan, right? It just wasn't just an idea to them, right?

You know, I think about. Just how? Proliferated this is.

Yeah.

How Hollywood's tentacles on our minds and and things that both you and I like too. Things that we like. I mean, I didn't know that this existed. I think I just. Found out. This year that there was a musical of Matilda. And then a Netflix adaptation of that musical of Matilda. I loved Matilda when we were kids. Yeah, that we haven't seen that little girl anywhere, really. Have we? Yeah. Good for her. But, but yeah, there's a musical and there's a clip. I think that was going viral because of these girls were rocking off in these in the hallway.

Like everyone, and stay inside.

So what's happening here is the kids are revolting. This song that they're singing is actually called. Revolting or something like that. Revolting children, that's what it's called, revolting children. It's written by Tim Minchin, who's an atheist and empiricist. You can just listen to his world views and you'll see that it's coming out in the things that he writes. I think that's what what anybody would do. The question isn't whether or not people's. Worldview comes out in their art. The question is, is there a worldview true right. That's always the question. There are people who don't want to do the thinking. And they don't want to actually dive into the conversation, so they'll say all worldviews are. True. And then I'll say, not yours, and they'll disagree with me. But my worldview is that your worldview isn't true. And you just said all worldviews are true. But you have these songs, this film is actually training children to revolt. You have this song called Revolting Children. You have another song called Naughty. They're they're catchy songs and you just watch them shake. Off in that hallway like that.

Are they crazy?

The way that they get their, the way the the way that they shake it a foot. In this thing, look at them.

Who taught them this? What is their problem?

In the world. And so it captivates you. Meanwhile, what's happening underneath of the captivation is there's a message being given to you. If you. Could kind of look through this scene right here. And start seeing Mexican flags. Palestine flags rainbow flags as they tear the streets of LA apart. You see the discipleship that's happening. You see it? I'm not saying it's a one to one, I'm just helping people to peace the the realities that we're in. I'm not saying that people watched Matilda and that's why they're riding in LA.

Yeah.

Don't don't get me wrong, however. There are people who are willing to riot while still being uninformed. Why? What was that movie or not? No. The show. Dan. What was that dark show on Netflix?

13 reasons why I mean.

You have 13 reasons why. Yeah, I don't know if a lot of people know about that, but that was geared towards teens and young adults.

Yeah.

I I had students and student ministry that I was pastoring from middle school to high school and all of them had heard about this show and we're watching this show. This is a dark, dark show.

Yeah, it's it's. Well, I couldn't. Even get through it.

So what did you you looked into Edward Bernays. Explain to the people who Edward Bernays is.

Edward Bernaise was. Well, I mean. He was born in Austria, but he was known as like a father of public relations. I think that's something that you mentioned earlier.

Yeah, the title.

And that's that's what it was. It's kind of like a a nickname. UM. Basically he. Coined the the the name by being able to come up with ways to get people through marketing to behave a certain way. So if you want for example.

Hmm.

If you wanted to increase tobacco sales for women during an Easter parade. In New York City, he had, like some women on floats, smoking a specific tobacco. It was cigarettes back then, but it was smoking tobacco. That year, tobacco sales for women spiked. And so the message in the tobacco smoking was liberation. Freedom was for a long time, women smoking was found upon. It was. Deemed as unladylike. So now you have a bunch of women smoking tobacco on a parade everyone sees. Yep. And so now tobacco sales go up. Another example is. Bacon and eggs. This idea that bacon and eggs, the all American breakfast is something that is. Uh. It's pretty standard like.

If, if there is ever a W that the villains got on me, man, that's it. That's the one.

Right.

Right.

So but.

He basically. Uh promoted that idea. That bacon and eggs was the all American breakfast. Once again, restaurants who sold bacon and eggs together sales skyrocket, so he basically. He able basically able through psychology to get. People to do whatever, buy whatever. Mm-hmm. Through promoting and and marketing through advertising propaganda. And more, uh. As a more modern thought process. Yeah. His name is Mark Randolph. He's the co-founder and the first CEO of Netflix. And Mark Randolph was Edward Bernays's great uncle on his father's side. Now just based on what we've been talking about. The influence of. Propaganda, marketing, advertising. Here's a here's a guy who has been able to get people to act, to buy, to move any way he wants them to move through psychology. And now? Uh. Mark Randolph, who is a UM. Descendant of evil Bernaise. Which which is a thing. All these, all these men and women have descendants that are alive today still, Mark Randolph, who was descendant of Edward Bernays, now introduces Netflix as one of the largest streaming companies in the world. Which goes back to messaging.

So well, check this out. One of Randolphs paternal great Grand Uncles was psychoanalysis pioneer Sigmund Freud. That's wild. I don't know if people know about Sigmund Freud. But this is not the episode to dive into.

Right. That's where Renee's.

That.

Uncle yeah.

Yeah, Sigmund Freud, these these, the, the psychology kind of what's it called? Industry, I'm sorry for psychologists who are listening to this, but the psychology industry is built on a lot of dark stuff and lies, and if you read, I'm going to try to find that and include that in our notes. I didn't know that Edward Bernays was related to Sigmund Freud. Yeah, but basically gas lighting. That's that's Sigmund's, baby. Yeah, that's segments, baby.

Edward Jones is also responsible for convincing people that fluoride in the water was a good thing.

Interesting. So that's that's important because you have somebody who knows. The influence of certain things weaponizes it. And then you have family members who of this person who, you know, obviously before him weaponized it in a straight in a more direct way psychoanalyzing people. And then you have family members after him. Who I I don't know them personally. It's speculative to say, but I would say utilize at best weaponized at worst it. And it's, I guess, more classic way through media and entertainment on Netflix. And the things that we see on Netflix quite interesting. Any any people listening right here, binge watch things on Netflix? You learn the most when you think you're being entertained. You learn the most when you think you're being entertained. Think.

Of the things that we talked about like remember cuties.

Ohh yeah. Wow. Wow.

Like the kind of dark shows that are on Netflix. And it's almost like I think, I think that one, they went too far with the, with the stage not jam, that's not. Naming. What's the next day?

With cuties.

Yeah. Conversion, right. Yeah, they want us up too far. I think a lot of people were like, whoa, whoa. Yeah. What is this? And I'm taking it down.

M.

But yeah, I mean you see it, one of the main things you mentioned earlier was I think divide, yeah, for example, and all of these things are the cause division. By the way, right. Division and ultimately to get people to turn away from. What's true Christ?

Correct.

We there's always these heated discussions about these Disney movies where there's clearly in the cartoon, you know, a white. Protagonist and then Disney does a live action and. Make them black. Yeah, alright. That right there. Is it a big deal? No, but those of us who know that there's a point. The point is division. The point is to cause dismay to cause disarray, to cause people to hate one another, right? That's the point, right? That's the point.

That's always the point. Why are we addressing all of this? I think now we've gotten to the crooks. You just said it, Darren. It's like the ethnic divide, sexual licentiousness. Even even. People being influenced on how they ought to view Christianity, it's ultimately. To sway their thoughts. On how to think about Christ. To take them away from life, to take them away from flourishing. And to choose death in that which destroys not only choose it, defend it, not only defend it, be willing to kill for it. That's what we're seeing and it's coming through your favorite songs. Your favorite TV shows, and your favorite movies. If there was a movie. That could probably have red flags regarding it, including one or more of the things that we've addressed today. It would probably be a movie called Sinners.

That's just bold, right? That's just, that's just in your face. But I would say another component of that is, is is getting people to. UM. To to to uh. To inform their thoughts is to use likeable people, right? Likeable people use people that they know. Yeah, have grown to love through television.

Correct. Yeah.

You know, and that that's something that we saw during the election cycle. Yeah, Oprah. Interviews Kamala Harris. And it's just surrounded by celebrities. That's why they do that. Why does Kamala Harris bring Beyoncé make the stallion and Cardi B on stage. Because they're using people. To sway your opinion. Just their presence. Why does Kamala Harris do? A cringe little video with Taraji P Henson.

Yeah, it was great.

To sway your opinion.

It was cringe.

So you have people like Julia Roberts, Ben Stiller, whoever, whoever. Uh, Will Ferrell. It could just be commercials.

MMM.

Sometimes it's not even always movies or TV shows because people aren't watching them anymore. They put them in commercials. Uh. And just or or or Jimmy Kimmel. Somebody interviews Jimmy Kimmel interviews Ryan Coogler. So now you're tuning in and you're watching these guys or Saturday Night Live is a big one. Comedy is a great way to to spread. Lies through people's favorite actors and actresses, right? But yeah, go on sinners.

There there's, there's a there are multiple angles. To address this and I wanna try to find something that I sent to you. And remember that clip I sent to you. Of rough it was from a podcast. And the podcast was a author or blog Blogger. Who was talking about worship?

Ohh yes. Yeah, the black worship and.

White worship, right? You know, the the overwhelming, I guess, resounding. Sentiment behind sinners that I was hearing was ethnic pride. Yeah. People being proud of their blackness and the dissenting view was Christian saying this is an anti Christian movie. Yeah. Meanwhile, I don't actually know why I I can get why Christians do what we're doing right now, trying to warn people say, hey, you need to wake old sleeper. But as far as getting upset, I don't get that. I. Don't get I.

Was just. I was just thinking that. People have so much like. The the expectation for Hollywood to do something moral. Exist for some reason with people.

That's literally the basis of my Facebook question.

And even and even. I would even say. A movie like Sinners is dangerous. To the young believer, the non believer. UM. But for the mature believer it's it's it's laughable. I think I told you this because people saying you know won't watch centers is dangerous. Now I get the spiritual aspect aspects of it. Uh, but those of us who are in Christ and are and are sure in our. Faith. Watch that movie and the discernment takes over. Yeah, you probably can't get through it without going what? Yeah. What? What? Are you kidding me? Correct. It's very obvious what they were doing in the movie to confuse, to turn people away from. Christ. It's it's obvious, right? And. Anyone who? Love the movie without any sort of. Pause. UM, probably. Isn't. In Christ.

Yeah. So I think that look, people like I said on my Facebook post, people who know us aren't going to be shocked at this is our take. Yeah, I welcome dissenting views. This is what I don't welcome temper tantrums.

Yes.

I don't welcome it. As a matter of fact, if you've ever thrown temper tantrums to me, I've probably told you explicitly miss me. Don't throw a temper tantrum at me. Don't send me no messages with temper tantrums in it. I'm gonna ignore it. Give me an argument. That's what I want. Give me an argument. But what I want to look at some articles that came from this movie and and what I want to do in reading some of these articles is I want to see what other people are taking from this movie. I I want to see what is happening when the person watches the movie and they go out and lie. Is what is this movie doing? So let's start with one. Ohh wait I I clicked the same article. Let me see.

Let's it's not something we haven't seen before, too. Like it's the same live bugler from dusk till dawn. And then you. So now you got Jordan Peele doing the same themes in his movies. Yeah.

No, no, no. It's from dust to. Gone.

White man. Bad black man. Good.

Right, right. It's it's we're we're used to. It so let's see this. Here's an article from The Tennessean. This is. An op-ed. So this this this article does not. Address the opinions of The Tennessean. They want to make sure. We know that. Here's the here's the title Ryan Coogler Films Sinners explores black Americans, complex ties. To the church. So get it, you're supposed to. You're supposed to be influenced on how to think about. The church y'all. Here's the subtext who do is a mystery to many because it had to be. Although many attempted to destroy it somehow, it persevered. Now. Without reading any aspect of the article.

We are praised.

Using. At least that's what I'm inferring from this voodoo. I'm not going to listen to this article this thing here, but I'm just going to. Read some aspects of it. Ryan Coogler's new horror movie Sinners focuses on a variety of issues, including ethnicity, Southern culture, and the importance of protecting your art. But one of the most interesting topics the movie highlights is oppression and colonization. Through a lens of religion. So Darren, we're already at 67 percent, 67% of our list. Ethnic divide. Sexual licentiousness and Christianity, so we don't have sexual licentiousness. In this, but we got we got two of the three when Cougar first announced his fifth feature film, I was ecstatic. I don't really care. Let me see. I was already excited to see a vampire movie focusing on black characters in the South. But what shocked me was the subplot of the complicated relationship between African Americans and Christianity, and what's always so fascinating to me. This is Brandon talk. Now when? When?

This you know.

People talk about Christianity is they talk about it like a person.

Yeah.

They talk about it like a person. So in the same way somebody could talk about marriage, you know, there's a complicated relationship between black Americans and marriage after slavery.

MHM.

During the era of the civil rights movement and then post civil rights movement, there's a complicated relationship between black Americans and marriage. Because marriage has just been beating up on black Americans, man.

Mm-hmm.

I digress. Let's keep going. She quotes this person, the the author. I'm sorry I didn't give her name. Gabrielle chenault. She quotes the movie. So the movie has made an impression. Owner. This is a quote from the movie religion, but not the Blues was forced upon black people. Now, I don't think that's the exact quote from the movie. I think it was very more a little bit more explicit that it was Christianity, not religion. Because who does religion?

Right.

The author continues and says growing up in a Baptist community in New York City, Sunday School choir practice and lengthy Sunday services were part of my regular routine. While I enjoyed it thoroughly as a child, as I got over, it felt more like a chore as I started my journey into history and specifically my ancestors journey in the United States. I'm gonna read that again. As I started my journey into history, and specifically my ancestors journey in the United States, I I was confused on why my family was content with practicing a religion that was forced on us. As Delroy Lindo's character, Delta Slim says in sinners, Blues wasn't forced on us like that. Religion we brought this from home. So I I'm not going to read through this whole article. I just want people to get a taste of the sentiments that people have post watching sinners. You can agree with it. You can disagree with it. I'm just saying that obviously, sinners wants you to think in this spectrum of things. In light of this, let's go to another. Ohh wait, I wanna there is there is a another quick coat.

What does that?

Cool. Look like what does that look? Like have a religion forced on you. Nobody knows. It says the sinners demystifies who do and challenges the witchcraft. Narratives. You see our Overton window moving. You see it moving. Can you feel it? Listeners? Can you feel the Overton window moving? How this movie and now this article is kind of jamming you to be a negative person if you view if you view who do as witchcraft. You ought to accept it even if you don't accept it. You ought to accept your black brothers and sisters who practice it. You see what's happening. Let's keep going. Here's another article, this article. It goes a different route. After watching sinners. This is probably one of my favorite articles here. How white charismatic worship stole from the Black Church? So which one is it, Darren? Is this religion forced upon black people and need to set themselves free, or do they own it? And it's been stolen from them. I'm trying to.

Figure out where that was in the movie.

Oh, oh, oh, listen to the twist. The the. So for those who haven't seen the movie centers, if you're listening the the the men and narrative is. That obviously vampires exist, and if you have been alive since 2020 up until now, you can probably guess that in all black movie The vampires are the white people and they turn black people into vampires. That's the only way black people can become vampires. It's a white person. OK, well, we're also the KKK, so they're vampires.

They are also in the KKK.

And the KKK? You know all the bad things they got raisins in their potato salad. Like it's all that stuff, all that stuff. And so since they're vampires, this author David Gate. Who's who's a white? I think Australian. Or maybe he's British, but. I mean, if you're Australian, British. But this this is this is the sub. This is the subtext. The vampires who steal stories and songs and culture. Ryan Coogler's, he says, quote Ryan Coogler's latest is an event, a genre shattering Southern Gothic vampire musical set in 1932 Mississippi. I'm going to read some highlights that I have here so I can save some time. Let me go down here. It says the. Whole film thrums with the sorrowful, enraged knowledge of black creation and white theft. Watching it, I couldn't help but reflect on my own history in the white charismatic worship movement, our history steeped in the spiritual music we had taken without ever playing, without ever paying the full price, sinners, lays it bare. We were the vampires. Imagine a worship service. The lights are dim except for a solitary blue spotlight cutting dramatically across the smoke machine haze, a bearded young man wearing tight jeans and the facial expression of a troubled minor prophet, kicks a wee verb heavy G chord and attractive woman with perfectly truffled hair. She lifts her hands. Heavenward. You can feel God in the room. The year is not 1970. Two 1985 or 97, although it could be. It's just now and eternal now of white charismatic worship. What's very interesting about these articles, both The Tennessean and this one. Is that they reference Christianity. They reference Church 1, even references worship. I think The Tennessean might reference worship. And the one thing they have in common with the book that I'm currently reading by Henry Louis Gates about the Black church, is there all Jesus lists. What is Christianity? Without Jesus. Christianity without Jesus is called humans living.

Right.

That's what it's called. That that. That's what it's called. And I don't think I think people fail. To see that and understand that. What was the scene, Darren? You said your favorite scene from the movie center.

Yeah, I what I. I think as far as cinematography goes. There's that one shot thing that Ryan Cougar does.

MMM.

And it was like this going through different genres of music. Different cultures of music, but all black culture. Yeah. And you know, that was like it it it was hard to. I wish it wasn't like all lies. Yeah, because I did appreciate the cinematography of it, right? But I couldn't. I couldn't ignore just the lies and the clear. Psychology of it all. You know, trying to teach us.

Correct.

That hip hop Blues Africans in some country doing some weird dance. Are all a part of black culture. That's all. That's all black American culture, because here they are in Mississippi. And somehow you can trace that back to. Witchcraft, which should be the true religion, apparently.

Yeah, right.

And also trace it to the future. And hip hop and you know all that's because of black people, which I just thought was was disingenuous and poor historic history study. I mean just poor history study history.

Yeah, right. Right. You know, we're we're looking for. Headlines and I think that's what really gets people off astray. I think the main thing that that leads people astray is they want to be LED astray. They don't want there to be a God who is righteous and holy. But what's so ironic is that when you, when you, when you press further into this righteous and holy God, you realize how unrighteous and unholy you are. And then you realize exactly what it means that he made it possible for you to become righteous.

MMM. Mm-hmm.

That's that's the history of this world that people call Christianity that's been known as Christianity. But it's not just as some title to add to a host of different religions practiced by humankind. It is a claim to truth, the objective truth. And what I'm saying is, rather than people adding other things into the pot. And saying but but who do? But voodoo? But Santa Maria, whatever it is, or Santeria, you know, all of these things. Why don't you make a claim for the truth? That's all I want. I I'm not interested in hearing. What you'd rather do? I want to claim for the truth my claim for the truth is that the earth is the Lord's and everything in it, and the Lord has revealed himself in the visible image of Jesus Christ. That, in accordance with the scriptures, he was born of a virgin, lived, died and rose again from the dead and will return again. And he's going to judge humanity. That's the truth claim. It's falsifiable. I always say. Read 1 more quote from this thing and then we're going to get to why people should care. About I think the what's it called? The the, the, the. Man, I can't think right now. Whatever the feedback of sinners is, people should care about the feedback and what what's happening in these articles, where people are talking about black worship. What is worship? Different, different then. He says this. Let's be very clear upfront. White charismatic worship, by which I mean the vast, tangled, contradictory phenomenon of emotionally performative, musically semi competent quote UN quote come as you are evangelical rock. Owes its very soul. To the Black Church, I mean, what type of simping nonsense is this?

Yeah, it's really it comes off really. Lame. You know, I mean, coming from a non American. Uh. Like buying into this black, white thing, that's not true in other countries. Right. So it's so disingenuous. Yeah, it's not his.

Life. That's not your life.

Well, you know, they don't do that. Nothing.

Feeling good?

Here.

So. Right then used to plague Americans, and now you're buying into it. That's not.

Yeah. You don't even go here.

That's not real.

Flying into the old two ethnicities thing, that's insane.

Right.

Right. Yeah. Yeah, you know it's it's really. It's really disheartening. That this is the case, but this is the this is the fallout from the film. The question is, did the film intend this? What was trying to be painted? We saw interviews with actors talking about how they practice these religions. What what did, what did Michael B Jordan say.

Adobe or something?

Like that. Babalu. Yeah, my question is, I don't care whether you practice it. Is it true? Right. Is it true? That's the question. That scene you're talking about there is a. Scene where they're. Going, you know, they're showing cause the the statement was this that when you play music. I'm paraphrasing, but you awaken the ancestors and you awaken descendants of the future, right? So this setting is in what the. 50S or something?

Like that.

40s, fifties.

1930.

32, OK. So it's in the, it's in the 30s and while he's playing this. Ohh.

My camera died hole.

So if this movie takes place in the 30s, and while he's playing this, his guitar and singing the Blues, the film shows a scene where we're seeing the people dance at this Juke joint. But then all of a sudden you start seeing kind of like old African warrior. Dances that are taking place from people and in you see stuff that would also be happening at a BT show. You got twerking going on, you got stepping going on from like fraternity sororities. And like you said, the sentiment behind it, it's a cool one. It's a cool, powerful sentiment of, like, yeah, look at the way rhythm and dance has spanned different cultures, but. Per per the movie, the same peoples. Which you know it's not. It's different people, but. It's a cool one. That's there's a darker reality to that. It's a far darker reality. I don't know if people remember and I was about to say 1921 in 2021, Travis Scott had. His big festival, I think it would have been his second one. His second one. Called Astro world. And in Astro World, at this Astro World Festival, the news was. Viral like I went the the festival in the fallout of the festival went viral because of the fact that over 300 people were injured and eight people died. Now, there's a documentary about this on Netflix, but it's a documentary on Netflix. It's not going to dig into the depths of what we're about to dig into here because it's Netflix. It does touch on the fact that Live Nation was very aware of the potential. The just the precarious nature of maintaining the festival because of the fact that people were jumping over the gates, rushing through the doors, people weren't paying tickets, they they flooded into the place and this the set up was meant for people to enter in a specific way. They didn't enter in a specific way over capacity. Yeah, way over capacity and people were asphyxiated to death. Now what's interesting is this. Though that is the case. In real time in 2021. When people made it home from that festival and they uploaded their testimonials on TikTok. There was just one. One was sounding common denominator. They all said I felt like I was in hell. And they were all very clear not to just merely use it as a figure of speech. They all talked about the fact that they felt a darkness there.

Hmm.

They all talked about that. These are all separate testimonies of people uploading videos on TikTok after that festival. Now, when I watched the documentary on Netflix as somebody who hadn't known anything about the festival, all I did, all I knew about was the news in 2021 about the people dying and things like that. I didn't look.

Yeah, yeah.

Into it I didn't know. Anything about it? And so this was my fresh eyes looking at this documentary on Netflix and within the first few seconds of seeing the festival setup, I said wait, what?

Yeah.

The stage. Was. A mountain. The. Of the extension part of the stage where Travis Scott could walk out on into the crowd kind of was an upside down cross.

Mm-hmm.

At the foot of this mountain that was, that was on stage, was like a portal type of opening thing. And inside it before the show started, it said. See you on the other side. And as the show is going on, there is a Phoenix kind of rising and flapping its wings and stuff like that. While fire is pouring down from the mountain and over top of this portal. Now. This is not something that I looked into, this is just my prior knowledge catching up to what I was seeing at this concert. Because. If you can visualize the upside down cross, imagine that you can only see the upside down cross if you're in a helicopter looking down on the crowd. So that's so, so Travis Scott has a stage and then you know how you have like different platforms you can walk out further into the crowd, it divides the crowd. The thing that divides the crowd is an upside down cross. Now that that, that's that that setup was meant for people. To enter at the foot, I'm just going to call it across and for sake of conversation the the purpose was for people to enter at the foot of the cross and then disperse on both sides and then fill the stage that way where it could be equally filled, equal, filled on both sides. Does that make sense? Yeah, but what happened was if we're facing Travis Scott stage to the left of that stage was another stage where, uh, what's her name? Black Panther song with Kendrick. Lamar, all this stuff.

Morning.

Whatever, whoever she is. She performed last before Travis Scott. And what happened is, as her show was ending, people knew that Travis Scott show was about to begin. So instead of people trickling in from kind of the open space and from the foot of the cross and kind of dispersing around Travis Scott, stage 50, some odd 1000 people left.

Off.

From keep wanna say Ke$ha, but what is her name? All those people left from her stage at once and entered from the left side towards Travis Scott stage. And there's a barrier there. So people are entering like this. They're entering like this. This is the barrier. They're entering here. And so every more more people are funneling in this way. So the first people who entered this way are trapped. They're stuck. They're not going anywhere.

All right.

And people ended up dying. Now that's the kind of naturalistic logistical nightmare that it was. But there was just a deep panic of a lot of people. When you watch the documentary, people are recording during that time. UM. And people are like you can see. People panicking in real time. And so my prior knowledge.

It's not scissor, is it?

Scissor. That's what it is. Yeah, scissor. In my prior knowledge was telling me this. UM. Why would there be a mountain? I asked Kalani. This because she had done an internship in Houston when we were in college, I said I heard mountain ranges in Houston at all. And she said no. Like. Why is there a mountain? At Astro world. And then even when I asked that question, I asked why is it called Astro World? And I said Ohh, that's right, the Houston Astros.

That doesn't make any. Yeah. No, that's not it.

Well, it could be it, but then I would ask myself, why are the Houston Astros called the Houston Astros?

Yeah.

What? Why? Why is Houston related to anything astrological, right? Well, that's because. NASA is in Houston. So now that all makes sense, but the disconnect is people don't realize that NASA is another Tower of Babel. Yeah, they don't know that. They might even hear that and think what the heck is Brandon talking about? Werner von Braun is a Nazi scientist brought over to help start NASA even more. Jack Parsons, the creator of the Rocket Propulsion program at NASA. The only reason we. Have things that light on fire and go up is because he started that. Now ask me who Jack Parsons was. Well, he was a Thelemite, which is a Fowler of Alistair Crowley. In his dilemma, religion, sexual deviants, drug induced things, occult magic. And channeling. All of this is deep and where so many layers down that things can just take place right in front of your eyes and. You not know what's happening.

Hmm.

So Houston's NASA program is just a desire to ascend into the heavens in the same way as what was happening in Genesis 11 and in Genesis 11, they were not merely building a tall tower, they were making contact with spiritual beings. That's what the the desire was, and that's what the heart of the desire is for Jack Parsons. Who started the rocket propulsion program at NASA now? What does this have to do with Astro World? I get it even if you want to agree with me there. It's like, OK, I get it. Houston has shady occult background and then the name was used at Astro. World. Well, no, it's still we can. Still go further. That mountain there. Is also tied to Genesis 11, but before Genesis 11 it's tied to Genesis 6. And I think that all of this stuff flies over the radar of Christians who see these things because. You remember that sermon you heard on Genesis 6? No, no, you don't. No. Yeah. No, the answer is no. You haven't heard a sermon on Genesis 6. MHM. You haven't heard a sermon. Genesis 6, Genesis 6 tells a story of rebellious sons of God coming down to man and mating with human women. The expanded version of that story is that they exchanged knowledge. For the women. The mountain that they came down on is Mount Hermon. The mountain that is the only mountain in Cesarea Philippi where Jesus took his disciples up to a very high mountain. Is Mount Hammond. Where he transfigured where he told Peter on this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. At the foot of Mount Hermon in Cesare Philippi to the pagans, it was known as the Gates of Hell. That's literally what it was referred to as. Not only was it referred to as the gates of Hell, there was a A A. I can't think right now. There was a place of worship. There at the foot of Mount Hermon. To the Pagan God of pain.

Oh.

And if anybody knows about the law of pain. It's that he would use a flute to lure people, mainly nymphs, women, young women. To ravage them. Lower than by music to ravage them. Not only would he do that, he would invoke. Petrifying fear. And literally where we get this word from. Panic. He would invoke panic in the hearts of those. That are around. Him. To petrify them. And devour them in him in whatever way that he desired. That's literally where we get our word. Pandemonium. That's what you saw at Astro World. People jumping over fences, climbing gates. I mean, it's you. If you watch the documentary, you can just sit, make that out yourself. It's literal pandemonium.

Hmm.

And do you know why this Astro world was so anticipated? Because it came in 2021. What was happening in 2020 day.

George, Florida.

Pandemic.

Ohh yeah, that's right. Yeah.

The pandemic was in 2020.

Hello.

There were no concerts, there were no festivals. And now we have the largest festival happening in the United States in Houston. And the result is over 300 injuries and eight deaths. And people's description, when they put it to words is that it felt like they were in hell. My question is this. Did Travis get the wrong ancestors that time? Is that a fair question? You think I'm being funny? What? What? Because. Because I feel like Travis's music and those who are like Travis, they were a part of that sinners montage, weren't they? Right. Wouldn't hip hop a part of that montage? Here's an even better question. Are there bad spirits? Are there bad ancestors? What does bad mean? How does one deal with them? Do do we do what Mama Juju Boo Boo did in the sinners movie? Is that the answer? Make a quick plan. Say hold up. Let me die first or whatever so I can see you in heaven. What's heaven? Do we wear all white? See if we're going to dive deep into Ryan Coogler's movie, then let's ask questions about everything. Let's we have to ask questions about it all. If we don't have the truth, then your answer is meaningless. But the truth exists. The truth exists that movie was very explicit to show that Christianity is impotent.

MHM.

And who do is all powerful. I actually don't care what they think about Christianity. It's Christ who's omnipotent. However, they want to address the way people practice things and do all that stuff. It's Christ who's omnipotent. This is the way we're going to end. We're going to end looking at Ephesians 5. And we're gonna look at Ephesians 5, read by, written by Paul. To people he knew lived in a world that constantly want to influence them on how they think. About the truth. That's what Ephesians 5 is. Let me pull it up. OK. Let's come back here. OK, this is how we'll end with Ephesians 5. Therefore, be imitators of God, as beloved children and walk in love. As Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. But sexual immorality, all impurity, all covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among the Saints. Let there be no filthiness, nor foolish talk, nor crude joking Darren. Which are out. Of place, but instead let there be Thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous, that is an idolater, has no inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words. For because of these things, the wrath of God. Comes upon the sons of disobedience, therefore don't become partners with them. For at one time you were darkness and now you are light in the Lord walk as children of light for the Food of Light is found in all that is good and right and true. Try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them for it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in. But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible for anything that becomes visible is light. Therefore it says awake O sleeper and a rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you. Look carefully then, how you walk. Not as unwise, but as wise, making the best use of the time, because the days are evil. I don't think people really grasp the tone of voice that Paul uses there. The days are evil, y'all. Like I said. If you disagree with us. Present us with a case with the truth. If you're looking to film and entertainment to guide you in any way towards this thing that's called the light, the truth, you're sadly mistaken. You're sadly mistaken. The days are evil. Any last thoughts there?

Yeah. I would take just guard your heart. I want you. Watch what you see is entertainment. Because it's becoming increasingly more difficult to be a cinephile, you know it can. It can be a good show, and then they throw in some sexual morality, and the temptation is, man, it's such a good movie or it's only this long, it seems only for 30 seconds. That's a temptation.

Yeah.

UM. Or, you know, these series, and this is Netflix's new thing to make a series based off something that you know already. It's a Power Ranger series. What can you do with that? Yeah. OK. Watch me work. Yeah. Right. And so it's, I would just say be mindful of what you watch, mindful of what you're. Oh. Watching going to, I saw another. I saw a podcast talking about going to a Chris Brown concert. UM. You know, it's just, it's his anniversary tour. It's gonna be nostalgic. All his stuff from 2007. And she was talking about the temptation of going and how the sermon and the Holy Spirit was like, don't buy those tickets. Yeah, there's nothing there for you. You know what this is? There's nothing there for you. Yeah. So I think as Christians, we have to be more wise and and encourage brothers and sisters in Christ to. Do the same.

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