#168 Have American Christians Bent the Knee to Culture?

Did you know that the entire LGBTQIA2S+ movement is built on deception and lies? No...really. Why don't more Christians seem to care? Why are more and more Christian placating to the world? Maybe, if your context is anything like ours, you've heard something like:
 "You can be a Christian and gay!" or "Sure, its ok to go to a gay wedding!" or "I just use the pronouns because it is loving our neighbor". Wherever I turn, I see more and more Christians wanting to blend in with the way things are while simultaneously falling in disdain with early church history, biblical doctrine and a true pursuit of Jesus. Where are we headed? Why is the bride of Christ bending the knee to things that we are warned about time and time again throughout scripture. Jesus has called His followers to carry a cross. Our lives can be enjoyable...but there WILL be hardship for the true follower of Jesus. We pray that you are encouraged to stand firm and not deny Him the way the world commands you to.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to black and Blue. Hi. That's Darren. It's me. I'm Brandon. Guys, we got another episode with the both of us with the both of us, couple of updates. Kamala Harris did an interview.

Yeah, you tried to give the people what? They wanted. So you'll say people say man comma and I don't know, interview. She's been in her basement. Donald Trump does all the adversary interviews. So Kamala said, you know what? I'm not going to be unburdened by what it's been. Let's talk about the passage of time. So she did interview.

Jokes aside, the episode I did. In my rant, I kind of had another. One went on. Live because of another Ant campaign post, but. UM. The the question still stands. The question still stands. What plausible argument do you have? You know what? Forget plausible. What argument? I don't think I hear an argument. Ever. We didn't even hear from Kamala's own mouth. The things that I received and the the the lashing out that I received in the comment section of that post was identical to what you shared with me because I didn't. Watch the interview. It's identical to what Darren shared with me happened in that interview. Ask him what any question and the first thing that comes out their mouth is Trump.

Mm-hmm.

And my question is, for people who are saying that this is the platform we should place our support in for the flourishing of America, what is your argument when Trump leaves? Is he going to be your enemy for the next 30 years? Now I would believe you if you said yes because that's what's been force fed to you.

Hmm.

That that, that's what's been force fed. And so, you know, I don't say that to be trying to be give a personal attack, but I I believe it's honest. I believe it's honest little bit of silver lining silver lining is there was one guy who had kind of joined the ranks of Amber in our comment section and different books and stuff like that and. You know, just like constantly taking shots at us, I guess. And and I can't remember exactly what the shots were, but the fact is that we. But. Black enough. Now that didn't come from his mouth, but the gripes were that we weren't doing black things, and I'm just not going to. I I never. I'm going to pander to those things. And there was one there was one where Amber popped up on one comment and, you know, I hadn't seen her in a while. And. I said, hey, Amber, now this was after I hadn't seen him for a while, either. And I said, hey, what's up, man, or, you know, hey, good to see you again. UM. Because I think that maybe they believe that we genuinely have animosity towards them, you know, especially comment section like I haven't officially met this person yet, so he can't. He jumped back on and he said, you know, to amber, like, apparently they never have an argument or things like that because that's all he says. People come on here and they say hi and. I'm like look. My guy, Amber's actually been in the cast. I've talked to her on the phone. We've had a conversation on podcast and we disagree. And so now she dedicates her time to trolling us. So I'm going to respond to her in kind. But, you know, I, you know, the I reach my hand out to you too. Like you, we can do the same thing. But yeah, that that's what that is. You're just a little late to the party. And so I think from that point on, there was a little bit of a shift and we'll dedicate an entire episode. I'll read to you. The messages that he sent me, I don't want men to do that. What's that I.

Don't want men to do that? Do what? That on on social media, you know, I mean, what a woman would do.

Well, yeah. Well.

Thanks. With the whole.

Ohh, you just say hi in the comments. What what that is different?

Return. We've turned a page. He became. He humbled himself. We humbled ourselves and he shared with us some things that I want to address in a full episode, and we'll actually address it with truth. And transparency in the same way that he was honest and truthful with us in the comments section, which you I mean, not comments such as in the DM what you was and I appreciate that.

OK.

I appreciate that. So that that's what I wanted to address. It just address that. So going to look out for that episode cause I think that'll be it's a good episode to interact with real time thinking of people who listen and he does and he listens. He will maybe, maybe select listening. Yeah, but he's listening to episodes. I'm talking about deep in the like, he'll put. He would pull something up from the, from the crates. He's just hits me. Yeah, he would use it against, but I mean, so it that. That's what I mean. Like, you need conversation, though. You need conversation because the thing he said that he related to us the most in.

You have siblings. Interesting. That's interesting.

Was. Us and our upbringing in West Baltimore, in the certain aspects of our upbringing, being attributed to quote, UN quote, whiteness, you know, being taught to articulate words, the things that we like, the shows that we like me like in Dragon Ball Z, you liking the more feminine show Pokémon. I mean all of those.

Good parts, yeah. Things which one is so thriving.

But but yeah, so with that in mind, something that we have not done in a while which I realize and I apologize to you guys listeners because one we've asked you and we continue to ask you to leave a rating and a comment on the show. Because it really helps us and it helps make the show visible. Now I'm not an Apple user, even though Apple is the the proprietary podcasting.

Platform, yeah. Yeah.

We use buzzsprout and if you check on. The the the. Description of every episode you can actually send us a message no matter what you're listening to this on. You can send us a message and we'll read it like I'm going to do in this episode. But first, before I do that, I'm going to go back to Apple. Because I just. Got on there, I'm. Sort of. I can't. I don't have full. Access for my PC. I don't know why Apple does that, but yeah, well I guess I. Know. I got on there and people have left some very encouraging comments that I want to. Read. We have one titled by Mark C Educators Unite says. What a heart? What a heartening discussion from someone on the front lines in education. Great guest. I imagine this is from. I mean, that's from 2023.

Do you see that?

That has to be.

Don't say. It.

Oh.

But yes, that's it.

Well, I don't know his real name either. OK? I only know him as Elias.

All right. But yeah, great. Great guest, love you guys. I'm a white homeschooling sister in rural Kentucky, and you guys have more in common with my worldview. As my Christian brothers than most of my white colleagues will. Amen to that. Thank you for that comment. Another comment, amazing podcast, these guys speak truth. They don't shy away from the hard topics. They aren't afraid to engage in debate or discussion with opposing viewpoints. Well, that's why don't point what I was just talking about. They share wisdom and truth and love in a way. That convicts thee. Here to want to glorify God. I love this podcast so much. They, they they, I guess. They named themselves so uncool. So thank you. Thank you for that. Thank you for that comment. Another comment I just love listening to these two brothers speak. They invite us into their godly conversations. They speak the truth and love. Thank you very much. Moving over to Buzz Sprout. Where we see other comments for people who left it in the fan mail by clicking the link in the description that says send us a message or I forget what the message says, send us a text or something like that, we get it. This one says I love black and blue. Podcast discovered it after being in a CFB U that's Center for Biblical Unity Book Club led by Brandon. I just wanted to ask. So Darren is a dog groomer. That's so cool. I graduated from grooming school in 2015. I've been grooming ever. I opened my own home based business two years ago where I worked part time. I also grew up on a farm and worked at a vet, so I have experience with a lot of different animals. Oh, OK, I know who this is. Love it because I work part time from home to have more time with my husband and kids. So the pet grooming industry attracts a lot of liberals. I feel a little out of place often as a conservative Christian. So I'm curious if curious if y'all have. Any comment on that?

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My God, I mean, it's a comment, it's a reply on the comment things what I mean.

No working. We can read it on here. Yeah, we read it.

Ohh I see. On. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I that, I mean, I I don't really know. Why the grooming industry attracts so many liberals? It's an art.

No. Greening. Ohh so the pet grooming industry. Hmm, maybe. Maybe what she's saying is the clientele. I mean, that's something you definitely relate to, right?

Well, out here. Yeah. But I mean, she's in South.

Carolina, I get that. But think about. Like you are a dog groomer. Yeah. You don't go get your dog groom. You keep it clean, but you're not paying like you don't have sweaters and stuff, mittens.

I'm a I'm a dog groomer, so I wouldn't take my dog to get groomed.

True dummy. I would groom it. Which I do. Yes. I'm just saying. I'm saying the words. The words.

And I also know to get a dog. That does need a lot of work. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I wouldn't get a dog. That needs a lot of work, but.

Yeah.

I mean, I would say that anything with art. Attracts little rules. You talking about? You know, there was actually a grooming TV show, which I was. It's called groomer has it has it. Good job, pretty clever name, but the show almost there was only one. So they were pairs of people and they they groomed dogs to get voted by judges. It's only one pair that wasn't gay.

Hmm.

Everyone was gay and that I would think that would be my experience and grooming salons. There's a ton of people's groomers and clientele, I guess, but. Atheists. Pagan, which is, you know, just it attracts that. I don't know why, but I looked at it as a. The A calling. Yeah. You know, I was there. I was. I was the light in the dark spot. It didn't matter which Salon I was in. It was always somehow. Yeah. True.

Ministry.

You know, truth was always me there being like, whoa, this is dark. And that, you know, they they would bring up and I was to stay quiet at first. When my first time in touring so long like that. And they start, they start getting comfortable and start saying things, you know. And I just learn as I listen to people and then I start to speak up. And correct some things that I hear. And come to and and and and come to realize a lot of people are just confused. Yeah, they were raised in, in poor churches, abusive Catholic churches. You know, had a a very poor view of who Christ is. Just you know. And they were hurt. A lot of people were hurt and and so they turned to things with the with that thing are are less harmful. Yeah. They end up doing more harm. I always something always told us. One girl I used to work with was like, man, look at look at your life. Now, because she was always complaining and she would always blame church. For why she was the way she was and I. Always said like. Well, how has your life improved since you left church? Since you since you said no longer, I no longer want to follow Christ. How has your life improved now? It hasn't. It's kind of worse, hasn't it? Looks worse. You're trying to do it by yourself. It doesn't work that way. Oh, but yeah, I had. That's a good. That's a good observation. I never really thought of the grooming industry being liberal, but I think it's a a liberal. It's a arts thing. I think that's everywhere in arts. Yeah. Art in general music. Actual art, art. Dance. You know it's everywhere.

I'll do one more question. This one says so regarding the Rua discussion. The quote UN quote, are you a blank discussion, you know what we're so late on on doing these that I don't remember what they're referring to. I'm so once again, I'm so sorry. Guys, please continue to.

I've done it.

Rate and leave a comment now that we know where they are and where they show up, we will give you guys shout outs in these episodes, but says so regarding the are you a blank discussion? I had someone tell me that we couldn't discuss our opinions on education because people get masters degrees in education. I have an Ms. in educational. Leadership. It is definitely a tactic to shut people down. Thanks for the podcast. It adds a helpful diversity of ideas that my podcast diet was missing from Pensacola, FL. Thank you very much. Pensacola, FL. Yeah. Yeah, that's a really. And here's the thing. The nature of all of these conversations is to shut people down so that the person doing the shutting down feels validated in their stance, even if it has zero foundation. And so that's why I don't engage in the comments section, even answering our sister's question from before about the grooming and and engaging people. I'm sorry dog grooming while engaging people. She's familiar with this because I said this in our book club with Center for local unity. But the best way to engage people is with. Question. Three specific questions. That one it starts with whenever they make any proposition, you just say, what do you mean by that? Now they have to actually split that statement open and delve deep into the logical foundation, or lack thereof, of their statement. Then the next question is, well, how did you get there? Some variant of these questions, right? What do you mean by that? How did you get there? When they draw conclusion or something like that, right? Last question is will have you ever considered and now you are offering up what you know in your wisdom, but this is conversational. And I think I'm not saying use it to be manipulative. You have to have the truth in order to use this and even by doing that you need to. Also know your you you have to have a firm grasp on what you're arguing as well, right? So that you're not arguing from the air and you're also not regurgitating something that the TV gave you. You have to have a firm stance on that.

OK.

This is this is an episode I wanted us to do because it was wing. It was. It's been weighing on me for a long time. You and I always talk about it and it is the nature of the Christian Church in the West. Most, more specifically in regards to her bending the knee to the culture. And then in turn, after bending the knee getting up to wage war on supposed siblings, you remember that song from Chicana glory? Yes, if I told you what I really need, I love that song. And I remember. I remember when this is an older song you guys should look it up and listen to. But I remember when, like I was in college and I felt the Lord pulling me toward ministry, and I never really had like, that general. I don't know what people think about when they go into ministry. I hear people talk about going to the ministry, especially back then, and they seem to have a grasp on what that meant. I had no idea what it meant. To go on ministry. But the thing the the the thing about it was it wasn't about going in ministry. That made me nervous. Being a Christian. Was that was was everything, every all the nervousness, all the anxiety about what it meant about my Kingdom being destroyed, about the old brand and dying about the new brand and living and living to die. That's what I believed I was being called to after reading through Romans and the gospel. Being very clear that, hey, you are living to die. As Dietrich Bonhoffer says that when Christ calls a man, he bids him come and die.

M.

And that song really resonated with me because it says if I told you what, speaking from the perspective of Jesus, if I told you what I really need. Would your heart and soul say yes? There is more that I require of you. Would your heart and soul say yes and it's just asking that question for the Christian to Mull over? Do you understand what's being required of you as a follower of mine in a dead world, right? And when it comes down to all the episodes that we've done, like Black Church stuff, talking about LGBTQ stuff, abortion. All of that. It all exists in. It's in one sphere. They're they're not like different things. They all. They all. Hmm. To the same drum. And more and more. We're seeing Christians. Bend the knee to that. More and more, we're seeing authors and teachers and pastors. Manipulate the scriptures, do a bunch of linguistic maneuvering in order to say yes to the world and no to Christ. Either the abortion conversation you've got, Kirsten, women. Who are not only arguing for abortion, but doing so nastily? Yeah. What about Christ is in you? Now, some would probably even answer me and say I don't even care about that no more, and that would. Make sense, right? That would make sense. My heart breaks for you, but to the ones who are hearing my voice and saying I don't. See anything wrong with that? What about Christ is in you? And what? Yes. Have you said to Christ? I there was a story. Remember I told that story of this Nigerian woman? I want to say this was probably four or five years ago. Maybe Nigerian woman. Student. Who? Either was about to take an exam and this is a Nigeria was about to take an exam or had just taken an exam. Was on a student group chat. And was praising God in the group that she's a Christian. For her results on the exam. Muslim students. Threatened her, got offended and threatened her. And told her that she can't do that. And her response was. I'm not going to stop praising the Lord. I'm gonna always thank him. Mm-hmm. So they burned her alive.

In the world.

They burned her alive. I tell that story to say. I think about the West culture today. I have a feeling that woman would have been scolded by Christians here. She's in her group chat. She praises the Lord. Muslim students speak up and say, hey, that's offensive. You can't do that. And then she stands her ground and says I will praise the Lord when I please. Christians would not have, obviously. This is a broad brush here. I'm talking about specific types of professing Christians. They wouldn't have hesitated to say that's just not loving your neighbor. For you to continue to do that, you knew it was offensive. You can continue to praise the Lord. It's not like they saying you can't be Christian. I mean they. Would come up with the slew of things, yeah. And that's what we're up against. That's sort of what I showed you. Did you watch that? The the thing I told you I did a. Rant about an. And campaign, but that's what it is. You have a pastor that's talking to his church about the evils of the Democrat platform the platform promulgates.

Yeah. Yeah.

Evil. And Christians jumped down his back, saying that's dangerous to say that. Pastor telling your church that the Democrat platform promulgates and proliferates baby murder, child sexualization and baby mentalization when you do that behind a pulpit that's dangerous, pastor.

We'll use the word dangerous, so I don't even know what that means. How is it dangerous?

You never do that, right? Yeah, it. It's ridiculous. I'm. That's what really set me off. Hearing that word. Dangerous. Because all those things came rushing back to me at once. The fact that this woman was burned alive for merely praising the Lord. You know what would happen here if Christians were being burned alive for praising the Lord? Maverick City would go out of business. They wouldn't sing that and they another song. Christians would flock to some other, you know, whatever outlet. Because we're very brittle. Once again, I'm speaking broadly about specific. Characteristics of professing Christians. And I think that nothing has been more pervasive. Then the conversation on sexuality, I mean all these conversations are related to sex in some way, abortions related to sex. If you have sexual licentiousness, you got more pregnancies. If you got more pregnancies, you got more people who don't want babies. You got more people want you kill them. But the sexuality conversation. Is extremely pervasive and it is crippling Christians. So much so that pastors are abdicating their role as shepherds. To make sure that they don't offend anybody with the truth and talking about sin well before we dive in that, did you have one at all? When you think about things that the church is bending the need to or where did I put? How did I?

Mean. Yeah, I would. I would just say. Language in general language around. I guess how things are are. There's a lot. Of there's a lot of definitions of words that are just thrown around, and I would say I guess language is is kind of a not a good way. To phrase it. But I guess I'll describe what I mean. What I mean is that. People are shaping things as political terms and like like a while ago there was a such thing as politics.

You know what?

I mean like it was. Hey, I want to be able. To this money goes to the factory and this goes to the hospitals. Yeah, I want to vote for that. I want factory. I want hospitals. Whatever. Now, what is being told to us is political. Is moral. And the church has bought in to it. Just being political. I I hear so many churches and pastors use terms like partisan when it comes to things like abortion and feminism and. Homosexuality and marriage. Yeah, yeah. And. And even I guess I will use language cause I also hear terms like. Injustice and that term is always cheapened to mean just racial injustice. Yeah, yeah. Rather than humanity creating. I mean, participating in cosmic sin. You mean like it's meant to mean black versus white. All the things that the white people.

Hmm.

Have done to black people. Not. Humanity sinning against God.

Too bad. Yeah, that's right.

And so I think the church has bought into that language of that political jargon language, you know, and you know, it's by design, obviously, you know, these are the words that are thrown around and just social injustice, you know, even the diversity, equity, inclusion, some churches won't use that language, but they'll do it. Yes.

Right.

They'll do it. They will.

They will certainly will. There's I'm trying to. I was considering pulling it up, but I don't know if I'm. I'm savvy and quick enough to do it, but in judges. The question I'm always asking people and I and I want to try to assume I look, here's the thing. I'll be honest with you. I'm a pessimist. In real time when things happen. I'm just what we both. Are. We we both are. I mean, we're we're both pessimists. There was going to get married, we went to go check out our suits. We're going to be custom made suits double breasted and we double breasted custom made suits. And before we went to go check on them. We were both thinking. Alright, let's go see how they messed this up. Y'all that might. That's a story for another podcast. I can't tell you. How shacked up that? I mean, it wasn't even.

Man, Nah, I don't know what that.

They were plastic type of material for like doll babies.

Yeah, that's probably the worst material I've ever felt it.

Was the worst scenario and all we could do is laugh and we praise God that it happened to us and not his bride.

Yeah.

But I I always ask in this moment, even though I'm a pessimist, I try to think the best of people so that even when people are arguing from a foolish standpoint, and that's what it is, when you go against scripture, you. Go against the Lord. You're being a fool. When you argue from a food standpoint, I. Just want people to pause and say. Hey, what needs to get a lot of seats? I hadn't brought.

It up. Ohh man, he said. You better put that on. Yeah. He was a trip, man.

He was. He was. He was. I I I tried to uh. Sorry I'm I'm. Trying to. Find. OK. And so sorry, what was I saying? Oh, yeah. I tried to assume the best. I have people. I asked people to stop. I assume that you are passionate about this because you genuinely believe it. Not because you just want anything besides what the Lord desires. I'm I'm I'm hoping that that's not the case. I'm talking to professing Christians now. Obviously, if you're not a Christian, I get it. You, you by nature are a child of lass. Of course you want what the Lord hates. Like we all were. Like we all were. But to the professing Christian, I'm assuming that there is something about this signature passionate about that seems to go against the Lord and who he is and what he teaches that you've been lied to about. So I want you to pause. Let's pause the same thing I'm doing about the Kamala stuff and Democrats pause. And if you're able to give me an argument, that's step one. 1. That means you actually do believe in something. And now we just have to decipher whether or not it's true. And then we can go from there, but we haven't even gotten past the argumentation part. A proper argument premises that draw and conclusion that are followed by conclusion. So I have people stop because I'm assuming that people are afraid of the same thing I'm afraid of. Being deceived. I mean, your entire New Testament. Is filled with warnings of deception. Because the left side of that testament is filled with people who are being deceived, right? Starting with the initial deception. In the garden. And I wonder if people have actually sat and pondered on what it means that the Satan is the father of lies. Like you know, they think like. You know, like Candace Owens is doing the command stuff. What's common is ethnic heritage. What is she lying about? You know, it's like, yeah, you know, she's maybe people think like that, like surface level, like, yeah, she's lying about her heritage because she follows Satan. She's the father of lies. You're a liar. What we gonna say? That's what I was about to say. I'm like I I.

That's all. Yeah, that's easy. Yes.

Think I thought you were going to ask what people. Think deceived means. Hmm, cause deception. Is not just a lie, right? Deception is made so that it kind of feels good or looks appears to be true, right?

What?

That's what deceived is is something that that can. Appear to be true. But when you actually break it open, you find no. It's a lie mint. And it's always a deception. It's it's meant to do something, right? It's not. Just a lie. For lies sake, a deception is meant to lead you away to something else. You know, I'm saying, like, if you know and and specifically in Scripture, Satan is trying to lead you away from Christ.

Yeah, yeah. And. And So what you have in unison, obviously this has been happening for a long time, but it's being wrapped up now. Amy's question has been sticking with me. I even texted her and told her I'm like, man. What a question. Someone in glory looking with the Lord now you know we we come face to face in glory and they're like, what was it like? In the last days. UM. But that's where I was going with that. What do they think it means? That he's the father of a lives. That he like comes to your job and lies on you through somebody. Somebody came to work and you showed up working. They like. Ohh.

She was late.

I knew it wasn't. Ohh yeah, you would say your father lied. The devil is a liar. Like, that's what you think that is.

The liver of the lion, yeah.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. Did we talk? About the origin of the term hate crime.

A long time ago.

OK, the origin of the term hate crime was the result of a homosexual man being murdered and the conclusion being drawn that he was murdered because he's gay.

And payment.

And that this needs to have some special classification, which I disagree with because it and it demeans human life and promotes sexuality.

Yeah. And yeah. Murder implies you already hate it.

Right. But but neither here nor there, they concluded that he was murdered because of his sexual orientation. And then everyone. Join their teams, right? They're like, no, you can't prove that. You can't prove that they killed him because he was gay. There was probably something going on and people like, no, they did kill him. And that's what the argument was. Meanwhile, off to the side is the truth. He was killed by his gay ex-boyfriend. And that that won't even see the light of day. Yeah. And it was like a bad drug deal or something like that. Some feud, I mean, I'm just saying that, that part it's not even near the conversation today. Right. Because it's built on a foundation of lies.

Or George Floyd? Derek Chauvin.

All of that, all of. That so I, you know, I think about them. 3 verses come to mind 1 and judges. This is a repeated phrase. And the people of Israel did what was evil in the sight of the Lord and solved the balls. And the people did what was evil in the sight of the Lord and solved the bowls. What's simple is that you can flip your pages and then get to that conclusion. You can see is your worship and serving the Lord. And then you flip your page. It takes millisecond and you see all they did was evil in the sight of the Lord. And I've always asked myself what happens in between that page flip. What concessions are being made? What linguistic jujitsu is happening in Israel? Yeah. What massaging of desire is happening in Israel for for them to then turn and start serving and worshiping the Biles? That's the first question. Second question is on the right side of the Bible. The New Testament. Paul was talking to Timothy, who is a pastor in Ephesus, and this is what he says. Timothy, hey understand this in the last days it's going to be difficult. People will be lovers of self. You know, I've seen people post this passage and they probably got somebody in mind because, you know, they post it. But I'm thinking we think about loving the Lord with our heart, soul, mind and strength. I'm talking about sitting down and actually pondering. And the first ponderance you should have on the passages as a mirror. Lord, in what way do I love myself? More than I ought to. In what way? What does it even mean to be a lover of self? I'm not concluding this. That's stupid. I'm for the sake of argument. I'm not concluding what I'm about to say, but I definitely believe what I'm about to say. But let's say for the sake of argument, I haven't concluded that it means my body, my choice. Would you at least be willing to say look, if I met you in a desert and I had two flash cards and one says lover of self and the other one says my body, my choice. Would you like at least agree that maybe they're related? In some type of. OK. Does it? Does that mean to be a love yourself? You are constantly wanting to be validated, constantly wanting people around you to what does it mean revolve around your life, meet your needs. When that doesn't happen, you get angry and slanders. In your heart. What does it mean to be a lover of self? They'll be lovers of money. They'll be proud. They'll be arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents. Ungrateful, unholy. Heartless unappeasable. That's why the racist conversation will always live slanderous without self-control. Even if it's not a government sign up, then we've only seen one side with the lack of self-control to. Try to kill. A president, right? This is not. I always do that. But I'm not saying. That this belongs only to. The Democrat platform, however, I. Just want people to think. Because I'm not we our claim is not that this list doesn't involve people who claim to vote conservative. We're saying it involves everybody, and we're saying that one platform actually celebrates things on this list. But that's not what I want you think about right now the platform. I want you to think about yourself. Your heart. They're brutal, not loving. Good. That's an obvious one. That's people hate. What is good. Yeah, woe to them. The scripture say. Woe to them. Treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.

That's yeah. Is swollen with conceit synonymous to lover of self or no? Are they different?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, they're they're they're. I wouldn't say synonymous, but. Yeah, I don't know. It's just, you know. Repetitious I guess I don't have time to really do a study on the word here, but. Yeah, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God. And then lastly, the reason this stuff flourishes amongst Christians. Is because they go to churches that have the appearance of godliness but deny its power. Now, but Paul is kind, right? Because he loves Jesus. He was met by the Risen Jesus, and he's kind. So after reading off that list, he says so you need to be nice and make friends so that you can win them over. No. He says avoid such people. Avoid them.

And that's important. Yeah. And I mean and also. There take some discernment, you know, from the beginning, it says. Understand this. That in the last days. There will come times of difficulty and then he starts to describe. What you will see in the last days. So take some discernment to determine are we in the last days? What does it look like? What will it like? What can what can we? What kind of thing are you even looking for these things in people and in churches and organizations and? Government. In your home, are you looking for that? Are you aware that that's happening?

Well, they're not trained to, you know why? Because. Pastors aren't doing what Paul then charges Timothy to do later on. In that letter. And Paul says I charge you in the presence of God and of Jesus Christ, who is to judge the living and the dead creeds that a lot of Christians probably not familiar with. And by his appearing and his Kingdom preach the Lord. Be ready in season and out of season. What do you do in preaching? Reprove, rebuke and exhort with complete patience and teaching. Well, why? Why Paul? Why must I do this before the time is coming, when people will not endure sound teaching? By having itching ears, they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions. Let me ask you this. No matter who you're sitting under, do you examine them under the lens of Scripture? That's not saying you are critical of them saying that you are. You reveal the word of. God highly yeah. And that you desire a teacher to teach you the word of God. If you are not concerned with your teacher, accurately equipping you with the scriptures, then you're not concerned with godliness. You're not concerned with loving the Lord with everything. They will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. And there are some people listening to us. A lot of people, probably, but listening to us who are at churches where they are, those individuals, they, I'm sorry, not these individuals. The ones who are examining their teachers.

Yeah.

And the lens of scripture, and they're probably frustrated because they're asking questions and wanting to be in, you know, have these answers and are probably being dismissed, condescended, shooed off being told to they're divisive. Because they have reverence for the scriptures and a desire to grow and godliness. And they're hungry. They're hungry and they're full on milk. So you need to be. We think about those things and and the. Where we are in our world. And you said. What did you say of politics, I guess, or people just acquiescing to language? Which words have they mean something?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Adopting. Yeah. Yeah.

They mean something. And I and I would say mine works in unison with what you're talking about because. You know, there are a lot of Christians who are under the gun, so to speak, relationally. I'm talking about this sexual revolution. And his hatred for God and Christians are in silence, really suffering. They have family members who are serving these sexual licentious gods. But even in their families, they're the, you know, bigoted, hateful 1. I know Christians who are parents and grandparents and siblings who I warned specifically is like. Basically being cut off from family. Or at least being scolded for having certain beliefs. So having boundaries set up. So that they can only see certain family members at certain times, and you have believers who have family members who are gay and they're getting married. Meanwhile, the game, engaged person or whatever you want to call that. Hopefully knows that their family member is a Christian, yet there's always an invitation.

Yeah.

Why would that be? If the Christian is is is explicitly a faithful 1, you know they know who they are. They know what they know, what they believe. And like, you know, I I've had conversations over the past year with believers who are invited to these weddings. And there's a tough conversation to have and things like that. And I'm like, look, I get. The tension and the sensitive nature and the fear behind it, I get the fear behind it. But the fact of the matter is, there is no reason you would attend that right. There's zero reason.

Unless you're to to shut it down unless you show up to.

That's what I'm saying.

Hey, I stand up in this moment with the party. Unless you're going to do that really with your relationship.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That that's what I'm saying. That's what. I'm saying, and so Christians are really under the gun with that pressure and and I think that they feel alone in that because they don't know that they can turn to another brother and sister and say, yeah, my family is kind of shunning me for not going to so and so's wedding who's gay because that brother or sister probably going to turn them and be like, what? Why wouldn't you go? That's so unloving.

Yeah.

That's not kind for you not to go, hmm. Because we are, we are so. Hypnotized by the world and we don't realize that our page flip. Has been the changing of language. The changing of expectations, the sanitizing of our language 40 Baca makes a good point that it's called homosexuality and not ****** anymore.

Yeah.

Things that used to be called perversions are now called paraphilias. Just strange love is what that means. And among these paraphilias are people who are roused by having feces smeared on them. This is on a list, an actual medical list, you know? Yo.

I do read through it 1%.

There's a bunch. Yeah, there's a bunch, and it just shows the pravity of man. But we've gotten to a place now where if you were to equate the feces guy with the homosexual, you're out of line and a Christian would tell you that. Yeah. My question would tell you that.

You think about.

I shared this in a sermon one time, but I think about athletes. When you know when the when the. LGBT people are like telling people to bend the knee. Hey, we're gonna come to your sports arena, and we're gonna have people who not only promulgate sexual licentiousness, that you disagree with, but they're also going to slander your Lord while they do it. Yeah. And Christians, will you know? In confidence, they'll they'll stand up and say, hey, no, I don't want to do that. And then the next week, they're issuing an apology. My heart breaks for them. And we it just beads off of our back because. Even though it is very different. UM. That is more of a Horror Story. Then the woman in Christ who got. Burned alive? Yeah. And people don't realize that. Yeah. You have people professing Jesus who are denying him on a daily basis. For the sake of self. For the sake of protection and you have churches that can't even in that moment, remind them of the grace that Jesus reminded Peter of when he, when he rebelled against him. Jesus was able to remind Peter of the Grace in his love and then charge him hey. Serve my sheep. And then Peter went off and served his sheep. And died. But we don't have that in our spaces because it's partisan, right? That's politics, right? To talk about that. It's politics. And we don't talk.

About politics, the greatest evils that we know today are at the hand of governments.

Yeah.

And we worship politics. Just you know, ohh you pick a side, I pick a side and have a conversation on Facebook about it. Some of the greatest evils are done through politics.

Something I've already become highlighted going back to the father of lies thing. Even when we think about this. This homosexual narrative, this is for the professing Christian that's on board and is an ally. The homosexual narrative is built on a foundation of lies.

Hmm.

People are probably not familiar with Alfred Kinsey's work, but Alfred Kinsey was a I don't even know what you wanna call. He was a sexual deviant who has a statue at Indiana University. And you're familiar with John money with the twins and the transgender stuff, yeah.

Yeah, that's on voice.

All of the quote UN quote research and findings that quote UN quote support people's arguments when it comes down to sexuality. Is founded in Alfred Kinsey's. Work. Which is built on lies. I'm trying to find. UM. This is something from Alfred Kinsey. I'm going to read a segment of Lori Balcom's book called. It's not like being black because in this is what I mean by both online. The foundation of lies. So you have the homosexual narrative that's built on a foundation of lies. But then from that lying foundation, another lie is is taught. What is it? That being gay is just like being black. If you just have lie on top of lies to the point now where people have actually acquiesced to it, and So what it means to be in the black church, it means to go off the waves of the culture.

Just a minority, yeah.

It go with the waves of the culture you think about old gospel songs not, not, not like walkins, even though that would that would qualify. But you think about these artists, William Murphy. All these other people, you look at them now. Perfect. Yeah, they're moving with the culture because they've brought into the lie that what it means. To be black. Moves with the culture. Now here's the thing. In a sense, that's true. Mm-hmm. As a Christian, your identity is not your skin color. Your skin color is but another aspect of God's glory. But you don't accept that your skin color in the world is has to be exalted above everything else, and it's the thing that makes you. But this. Let me read this segment from the welcome. Book it's not like being black. He says in 1948, Kinsey published a book that is considered the gold standard for understanding human sexuality. It's called sexual behavior in the human male. What most people don't know is that one of Kinsey's primary research methods was watching pedophiles molest young children. In one of his more mind boggling revelations, he wrote, and before I read this. This is not for children. If you're discipling. A younger one. Then you use your own discretion discretion. But just warning. Warning. You have time to turn off or wait till another time. Wait for another time to listen. Read it. Quote some of these are adults, are technically trained persons who have kept Diaries or other records which have been put at our disposal, and from them we have secured information on 317 pre adolescents who were either observed in self ************ or. Who were observed in contacts with other boys or older adults? Hmm. But from Kinsey's work. Vodacom says elsewhere, Kensing notes that his records were based on what he identified as. More or less uninhibited boys, most of whom had heard about sex and seen sexual activities among their companions, and many of whom had had sexual contacts with one or more adults. That's from Alfred Kinsey. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna read some more. So let me read this and this is going to be hard to hear, but I need people to realize that not only is this built on lies, this is just satanic. The foundations of what we're calling love is love is satanic and it will be on the other side of the sword that comes from Jesus's mouth. And people don't realize that.

Yeah.

Falcom continues and says Balcom continues and says what was so scandalous about tables 30 through 34. These are this is Brandon talking now. These are tables that are in Alfred Kinsey's Journal. What was so scandalous about tables? 3034. Those are the tables cataloging. Kensington Research on pre adolescent.

Right, yeah.

Reason.

Orgasm. In them, he notes that quote orgasm has been observed in boys of every age from 5 months to adolescence. That's from table 31. Orgasm is in our records for a female baby of four months. The orgasm in an infant or other young male is, except for the lack of an ***********, a striking duplicate of orgasm in an older adult.

Who asked him to do. This work? Nobody.

His his desires and his heart, his flesh, asked him to do that work and that's not work, that's abuse.

Yeah. What is he doing?

Is a sexual predator and is a statue at Indiana University and is the foundation upon which our understanding of sexuality and all the subsequent arguments that Christians have brought into regarding sexuality fall upon.

Exists in.

I don't need to go further.

That's the French woman that came up with this whole this whole gender thing. Gender being different than sex. I cannot remember her name.

I'm sure she's in here.

Somewhere, but yeah, it's a fairly new idea that sex and gender are not related. Gender is related to gender is related to language. It's a. It's a term for language. So what do you do with Spanish? You got those Spanish away.

MHM.

Yeah. If gender and sex are. What? You know, what do you do with the Spanish language? If they buy into the fact that men. Can be women and women can be men and you can be there's a spectrum. What do you do with that feminine language? I mean feminine words and masculine words, yeah.

But it's all lies, right? It's all lies. And and that's what's frustrated a lot of people when they ask questions. A good question is, like, here's a here's a very basic 1 minority minority is not about minorities.

Yes.

Just like justice isn't about justice, injustice isn't about injustice and churches. People who claim to be children of the living God use these languages, so minority is not about minorities. What do I mean? By that. I wasn't called a minority in engineering. School, right? Yeah. I wasn't called a minority in university. I was, though not as a black person, as a male. Men on university campuses are minorities, not only men, but science, technology and math, science, engineering, technology, engineering and math majors are minorities. They're not considered minorities, right? They're not, they're not considered minorities.

Alright.

So you know, we don't care. We don't care about that. We don't care. About what's true. Another thing, there was a quote that did it. There was another quote I. Do want to read and this. Is about the the. The effort to normalize homosexuality in the country that was formed by two Harvard professors who were they had they had done dissertations? I want to say in marketing and propaganda or something like that. OK, let me read this segment now in this segment, voted backing has highlighted something. He has highlighted a lot. And that we've even talked about on this passage, and this is from it was a campaign from Kurt, what was it, Marshall, Kirk and something Madsen. I forget, but it's from after the ball. And what they did is they wrote. A strategy of how to normalize homosexuality and that strategy has worked very well and it's worked very well. This is what Malcolm says. The campaign they wrote, though complex, depends essentially upon a program of unabashed propaganda, firmly grounded.

Yeah.

And long established principles of psychology and advertising. That's what it was, psychology and advertising. So propaganda and advertising.

Right.

Balcom says if you find it surprising that they use the word propaganda, you will find it even more surprising in light of the fact that they went on to define it as the communication that quote relies on. Emotional manipulation, uses lies and is subjective and one sided. This is a quote from their work. They said this. It makes no difference that the ads are lies. Not to us, because we're using them to ethically good effect to tell our side of the story as movingly as possible in the battle for hearts and minds, effective propaganda knows enough to put its best foot forward, and this is what our own media campaign must do. Quote. So professing Christian, who is a quote UN quote ally. You're willing to turn your back on the Lord. Because you probably think. You heard a great argument from a pastor. That said, hey, we've been seeing the Bible all wrong. Sexual licentiousness and sexual immorality don't include. Homosexuality. Paul doesn't address that explicitly in Romans 1, any fees in five in First Corinthians. That's something different. That is the argument, too. Yeah. Oh, oh, Paul is talking about pederasty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you probably think that that's why you heard a great argument. And you realize that these clobber passages that Christians use, you ought not look at. So now the scriptures are untrustworthy. And after the scriptures became untrustworthy, you realized that maybe I can still find some good stuff in the Scriptures and I'll use that for my benefit. Now you belong on that list to Timothy. And then after and then before doing that, you realize that, oh, I don't like talking about what the Scriptures are saying about homosexuality. So that means you never really trusted it was true in them to begin with. And the question that becomes. That precedes that is what did you say Jesus was? Who did you say Jesus was? Meanwhile. Even though you think that that was your process of deconstructing, even though you probably haven't even called it deconstruction, what has really happened is you've been manipulated. You've just been lied to. You've had movies and television shows and songs tell you that this is OK. This is normal and it's been promulgated in such a way that you think that all of the world is like this. Meanwhile, what's happening outside is just two people. There's two people doing it. Hmm. You've been made to believe. That majority of the world is agreeing with something that a grotesque minority believes. I mean grotesque and the number is so small. It's disgusting that they try to make it seem like it's bigger. And after you having you having believed that they have then threatened you with calling you a Nazi or a bigot or a hateful person for standing firm in your professed belief. I'm still talking to the professing Christian. That this profession that you make ought to stop. You better go to the wedding. You better accept my lifestyle. It's not good enough that you're not going to try to kill me like the media says you're going to try to do. It's not good enough that you're you're still willing to speak to me? No. It's unappeasable. As Paul says, you better accept it and after you accept me, the man who wants to legally have sex with the little boys, you better accept him too. And after accepting him, the man who wants to get married to his pig and other animals on his farm, you better accept them too. Once Upon a time, people said that stuff. Was ridiculous, yeah. That's what it was. You will manipulate it.

Deceived.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Genuinely deceived. So with sober minds, humbled hearts. Can you join me real quick as we go back to our passage? I want to go back to second Timothy. And I want you. To envision this context, this is the real historical context in which he wrote this letter to a trusted younger brother in the faith of Pastor and Ephesus, a freaking Pagan. Cesspool of idolatry. That Paul is writing this letter to Timothy from prison awaiting death. He's awaiting execution. And I just want you to let every word I say in this don't just let it pass by. It's, you know, kind of like familiarity breeds contempt and you're used to reading the Bible. You've been in the purse and context for too long. It's too boring. I want you to try your darndest. To let every picture, I mean every word, paint a picture in history of this very real man. Writing to another very real man. With very real imminent death. Paul says this. He opens his letter this way. Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus.

When?

By the will of God according to the promise of the life that is in Christ Jesus to Timothy. My beloved child. Grace, Mercy, and Peace from God the Father in Christ Jesus our Lord. I thank God whom I serve, as did my ancestors, with a clear conscience as I remember you constantly in my prayers, night and day. As I remember your tears, I longed to see you, that I may be filled with joy. I am reminded of your sincere faith, a faith that dwelt first in your grandmother Lois and your mother Eunice. And now, I am sure, dwells in you as well. For this reason, I'm remind I remind you. To fame and to flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands. For God did not give us a spirit of fear. But of power, love and self-control. Therefore. Do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner, but share in the suffering for the gospel by the power of God who saved us and called us to a holy. Calling set apart not common, not worldly. Not mundane. Of holy calling. Not because of our works. But because of his own purpose and grace. Which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began, in which now has been manifested through the appearing of our savior, Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel. For which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle and a teacher. Which is why I suffer as I do. But. I am not ashamed for I know whom I have believed, and I am convinced that he is able to guard until that day what has been entrusted to. Me. Follow the pattern of the sound words that you have heard from me and the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus by the Holy Spirit who dwells within us. Guard the good deposit entrusted to you. Ladies and gentlemen. I think about the rich history of the church. The relatively recent rich history. Of Europeans. Coming over. Christians. Of Africans. Coming over. Already, Christians and those who were made Christians. And the rich history of reverence and honoring the Lord in the midst of turmoil, suffering and death. And now we look today. And there's a convergence of all these different cultures, but founded in the Kingdom of God. They're all converging on the new God of sexual immorality. Sexual licentiousness. Perversion. And it's being cloaked. With love is love. That if you disagree and you desire to be a faithful brother or sister in Christ, you're a hateful bigot, and we all feel that pressure. But God did not give you a spirit of fear. But he gave you one of power, love and self-control. So don't be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, brothers and sisters. Live in true love. I am not looking down on you as you sit in fear, wondering how you're going to respond when the wedding comes. I have compassion for you. I hope you hear me speaking as a brother who loves you. And is encouraging you to stand firm, fan the flame of the gift of God. Be a light in a dark place. Find time and spend it with the Lord. Considering what it means to dwell with him. James and John once asked Jesus before his crucifixion out of pride. They asked if they could sit where Jesus is. And Jesus and love told them that you are not prepared to drink the cup that I have to drink. But he concludes by saying. But now you'll drink it. And what it means to be a Christian in this world? It means to drink. The cup that Christ drink. Not specifically, there's a special cup that Christ drink when it comes down to the father's wrath. But when it comes to being persecuted in this world. Slandered. Hated. Given up to death. We are not guaranteed safety from either of those things. As a matter of fact, we are guaranteed to endure at least some magnitude of that. Paul says later on in this chapter that anyone who desires to live a godly life. Will be persecuted. So I do not look down on you, brother and sister. But I spur you toward love. Stand firm. In the profession. Do not deny Christ. Because when it comes down to the suffering that we endure in this world, it is because of our unity in Christ that that too is fellowship. That's fellowship. That you get to look in the dark places. Look to your side and your king stands with you. Fellowship. So as your loved one turns toward The Dark World. Bends the knee to the idols of this world. Stand firm. And do not give in. Love them as a light bearer and a salt. Bringer. Love them as an ambassador of Christ, but do not bend the knee. Consider truthfully. And soberly. The question Jesus has asked of you to be his disciple. Consider what it means to call him Lord. And even in the greatest times of fear. And weakness. Doubt. Calamity.

The.

Suffering. My prayer. Is that your answer would be yes.

So.

Thank you for listening to this episode of Black and Blur. We are guaranteed to hear one of two things, our humble opinion.

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